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 Midlands Eagle  29 Mar 19 10.29am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
But I thought that you had moved - to Holland
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| Midlands Eagle 29 Mar 19 10.29am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
You see him as a credible source now? Cherry picking quotes which is a trick that I learned from you
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Teddy Eagle  29 Mar 19 10.35am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
I don't think our economic health will depend on the EU but will certainly be worse outside of it in near future
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| chris123 hove actually 29 Mar 19 10.36am |
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Originally posted by silvertop
You are a bit behind the times mate. Last 10 years our economy has tanked. Same period, Poland's has shot up by almost a quarter. The flow of Poles is by way of return if anything. Also, those who came and are here do overwhelmingly PAYE jobs and thus pay into our tax system and don't send money "home". certainly the Poles I know. They consider here to be their home. If you are saying that they are prepared to work harder than our home grown workers and for lower pay and this has caused 100,000s of people to feel resentment at the loss of opportunities and depressed wages, then there you may have a point. Tanked relative to which economies are you refering to out of interest?
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Pussay Patrol  29 Mar 19 10.37am |
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Originally posted by silvertop
You are a bit behind the times mate. Last 10 years our economy has tanked. Same period, Poland's has shot up by almost a quarter. The flow of Poles is by way of return if anything. Also, those who came and are here do overwhelmingly PAYE jobs and thus pay into our tax system and don't send money "home". certainly the Poles I know. They consider here to be their home. If you are saying that they are prepared to work harder than our home grown workers and for lower pay and this has caused 100,000s of people to feel resentment at the loss of opportunities and depressed wages, then there you may have a point. That's probably cos it's a 10 year old argument, people bought into this crap of foreigners coming here stealing jobs, etc, I'm sure most sensible people see through it these days
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 becky over the moon 29 Mar 19 11.17am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
So if he says something that doesn't suit your argument it's project fear? You see him as a credible source now? I suppose it's better than Neil warnock and Roger daltrey No, his doom and gloom predictions WERE project fear: now he is telling the truth..... simple really!
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Mar 19 11.29am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
From where do you learn this? Everything I have heard says the opposite When I contacted a wojewodzki urzad pracy to try to advertise for staff they wouldn’t help Poland is actively repatriating people. Pay in Warsaw is comparable with the UK now Maybe you’re right, but the figures tell us, 300,000 is it, in net immigration. Romania is the next nation we’re helping while we forget about the issues with employment in younger and less qualified groups in the U.K. It really is endless and mainly because we allow it and don’t do anything else in regards to this. It’s all quite laughable when, unsurprisingly, people are all for it but move away from it all. Do as I say but not as I do. They should have a go in politics. Oh they already are with calls for a people’s vote we’ve already had. Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Mar 2019 11.38am)
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Mar 19 11.36am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Pussay and Steeley think they are both suffering delusions of imaginary friends or insiders feeding them information when in fact it’s both of them in the same room feeding each other their preferred created little bits of inside info from Brussels.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Mar 19 11.56am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
That's probably cos it's a 10 year old argument, people bought into this crap of foreigners coming here stealing jobs, etc, I'm sure most sensible people see through it these days Nobody ‘steals’ a job but there are effects on the job market. Where are you and which job market are you in btw? It’s a Ponzi scheme we’re relying on because we aren’t or haven’t addressed it or considered it’s feeding the need for it forever.
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| Rubin 29 Mar 19 12.03pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
That's probably cos it's a 10 year old argument, people bought into this crap of foreigners coming here stealing jobs, etc, I'm sure most sensible people see through it these days Imagine, in Holland, you earned €10 an hour. Now imagine there was a country within the same continent, where you could do the same job and earn €50 an hour. Imagine you happily moved there and were satisfied doing said job for, despite being under the market rate, €40 an hour. If enough people like you left their country of origin and went to the better paying country, employers would soon lower their wage structures (in the better paying country). When the phenomena starts happening, employers would favour those willing to do the job at the same or better standard for lower pay, resulting in a loss of jobs/opportunities for those who were born in the better paying country. Their wage structures would also gradually decrease. It's a really simple concept to grasp, and has nothing to do with xenophobia or skin colour.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Mar 19 12.31pm |
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Maybe slightly out of touch with those hourly rates however.
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| Rubin 29 Mar 19 12.33pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Maybe slightly out of touch with those hourly rates however.
Was trying to make it as simple as possible for him!
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