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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 24 Jul 19 11.55pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger The next time I see someone who is 'right wing' I will let them know. Do you honestly think that any source of information has no political bias? Caring and giving is a natural part of being a parent or a grandparent. Wishing to protect your family's interests is an extension of that. Helping or giving advantage to others at the expense of those close to you is just plain idiotic. If you find it difficult to recognise what a right winger looks like then find the nearest mirror and have a good long stare into it. Many sources of information can take a detached view and seek objectivity. The problem with anyone on the right or left fringes is that they see bias in everything other than their own opinion. Caring about those outside of your immediate family is a vital part of a decent society. Just remember that not everyone has a family to care for them. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 24 Jul 19 11.55pm

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The next time I see someone who is 'right wing' I will let them know.
Do you honestly think that any source of information has no political bias?

Caring and giving is a natural part of being a parent or a grandparent. Wishing to protect your family's interests is an extension of that.

Helping or giving advantage to others at the expense of those close to you is just plain idiotic.

If you find it difficult to recognise what a right winger looks like then find the nearest mirror and have a good long stare into it.

Many sources of information can take a detached view and seek objectivity. The problem with anyone on the right or left fringes is that they see bias in everything other than their own opinion.

Caring about those outside of your immediate family is a vital part of a decent society. Just remember that not everyone has a family to care for them.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Jul 19 12.02am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Not the evidence I’ve seen but we’ll draw our own conclusions. The difference is that those to the right of the spectrum don’t have any problem with getting the best education available for their children whilst Labour espouse comprehensive schooling for everyone else’s kids. I am on the "right of the spectrum" but probably not as far as you! I have a major problem with anyone seeking to subvert the education system to the advantage of their child and disadvantage of another. Education provision should be solely on merit. It is totally in all our interests that the most able should receive the best available education and that the social and economic position of the parents not play any kind of role. I realise that is both impractical and in some ways counter productive but we need to ensure that merit become the most important criteria. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 25 Jul 19 12.02am

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Not the evidence I’ve seen but we’ll draw our own conclusions.
The difference is that those to the right of the spectrum don’t have any problem with getting the best education available for their children whilst Labour espouse comprehensive schooling for everyone else’s kids.

I am on the "right of the spectrum" but probably not as far as you! I have a major problem with anyone seeking to subvert the education system to the advantage of their child and disadvantage of another.

Education provision should be solely on merit. It is totally in all our interests that the most able should receive the best available education and that the social and economic position of the parents not play any kind of role. I realise that is both impractical and in some ways counter productive but we need to ensure that merit become the most important criteria.

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DanH SW2 25 Jul 19 12.07am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Penge Eagle No source for your information though? Actually in the US, IRS data has shown that conservatives give far more to charity than those on the left. 'Republicans give more to charity – but not because they oppose income redistribution' [Link] 'Republicans Give More to Charity Than Democrats' [Link] Was going to say surely it’s in church donations just as a hunch but the article proves it. That doesn’t count surely? I’ve had some American clients that donate eye watering amounts to their churches, which is all well and good but i’m not sure it’s really getting to the places it’s needed.
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DanH

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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

No source for your information though?

Actually in the US, IRS data has shown that conservatives give far more to charity than those on the left.

'Republicans give more to charity – but not because they oppose income redistribution' [Link]

'Republicans Give More to Charity Than Democrats' [Link]

Was going to say surely it’s in church donations just as a hunch but the article proves it.

That doesn’t count surely? I’ve had some American clients that donate eye watering amounts to their churches, which is all well and good but i’m not sure it’s really getting to the places it’s needed.

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Teddy Eagle 25 Jul 19 12.26am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I am on the "right of the spectrum" but probably not as far as you! I have a major problem with anyone seeking to subvert the education system to the advantage of their child and disadvantage of another. Education provision should be solely on merit. It is totally in all our interests that the most able should receive the best available education and that the social and economic position of the parents not play any kind of role. I realise that is both impractical and in some ways counter productive but we need to ensure that merit become the most important criteria. You really shouldn’t try to guess anyone’s political leanings from posts on a football website.
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Teddy Eagle

25 Jul 19 12.26am

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You really shouldn’t try to guess anyone’s political leanings from posts on a football website.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Jul 19 9.49am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Teddy Eagle You really shouldn’t try to guess anyone’s political leanings from posts on a football website. I haven't noticed too much resistance from others here and as I did say "probably"at least I used a caveat. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 25 Jul 19 9.49am

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You really shouldn’t try to guess anyone’s political leanings from posts on a football website.

I haven't noticed too much resistance from others here and as I did say "probably"at least I used a caveat.

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Hrolf The Ganger 25 Jul 19 10.49am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle If you find it difficult to recognise what a right winger looks like then find the nearest mirror and have a good long stare into it. Many sources of information can take a detached view and seek objectivity. The problem with anyone on the right or left fringes is that they see bias in everything other than their own opinion. Caring about those outside of your immediate family is a vital part of a decent society. Just remember that not everyone has a family to care for them. I have no reflection and I sleep in a coffin. 'Right wing' is a term of convenience, as is any other political label. I am not on any wing but clearly, your reasoning is on its last legs.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If you find it difficult to recognise what a right winger looks like then find the nearest mirror and have a good long stare into it.

Many sources of information can take a detached view and seek objectivity. The problem with anyone on the right or left fringes is that they see bias in everything other than their own opinion.

Caring about those outside of your immediate family is a vital part of a decent society. Just remember that not everyone has a family to care for them.

I have no reflection and I sleep in a coffin.

'Right wing' is a term of convenience, as is any other political label. I am not on any wing but clearly, your reasoning is on its last legs.

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DanH SW2 25 Jul 19 11.01am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I have no reflection and I sleep in a coffin. 'Right wing' is a term of convenience, as is any other political label. I am not on any wing but clearly, your reasoning is on its last legs. Don't tell Stirling this, his brain couldn't handle it.
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SW2 25 Jul 19 11.01am

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I have no reflection and I sleep in a coffin.

'Right wing' is a term of convenience, as is any other political label. I am not on any wing but clearly, your reasoning is on its last legs.

Don't tell Stirling this, his brain couldn't handle it.

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Mapletree Croydon 25 Jul 19 11.41am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by DanH Don't tell Stirling this, his brain couldn't handle it. Haha I have to agree with Hrolf on this. Labelling is pernicious and divides people unnecessarily. Said it many times to Stirling but, as I am not his Dad as far as I know, he never takes me seriously.
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Croydon 25 Jul 19 11.41am

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Originally posted by DanH

Don't tell Stirling this, his brain couldn't handle it.

Haha

I have to agree with Hrolf on this. Labelling is pernicious and divides people unnecessarily. Said it many times to Stirling but, as I am not his Dad as far as I know, he never takes me seriously.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Jul 19 11.41am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I have no reflection and I sleep in a coffin. 'Right wing' is a term of convenience, as is any other political label. I am not on any wing but clearly, your reasoning is on its last legs. Sure all political labels are terms of convenience, as are many such things, but nevertheless they do categorise people onto general groupings. If you don't sit so far on the right wing as to be nearly falling off then your posts here do an excellent job of confusing everyone. Me included, but I don't think my reasoning to be too far off the mark. I have actually noticed a lack of reflection from you, as you rarely take any time to consider things. Living in enclosed dark spaces, likes coffins, tends to have that effect. Try to get out into the light and open spaces. You can see a much brighter world out there. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 25 Jul 19 11.41am

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I have no reflection and I sleep in a coffin.

'Right wing' is a term of convenience, as is any other political label. I am not on any wing but clearly, your reasoning is on its last legs.

Sure all political labels are terms of convenience, as are many such things, but nevertheless they do categorise people onto general groupings. If you don't sit so far on the right wing as to be nearly falling off then your posts here do an excellent job of confusing everyone. Me included, but I don't think my reasoning to be too far off the mark.

I have actually noticed a lack of reflection from you, as you rarely take any time to consider things. Living in enclosed dark spaces, likes coffins, tends to have that effect. Try to get out into the light and open spaces. You can see a much brighter world out there.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 25 Jul 19 11.49am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I haven't noticed too much resistance from others here and as I did say "probably"at least I used a caveat. That’s true you did. I think most people are more nuanced in their views than can be properly categorised by right or left wing labels. It’s a kind of shorthand, like which club someone supports. What’s he like? He’s Millwall. He’s Chelsea. He’s West Ham - conjure up an instant impression. Not Palace though. Like the Pink Panther we are all gentlemen and scholars. Not necessarily acrobats though.
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25 Jul 19 11.49am

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I haven't noticed too much resistance from others here and as I did say "probably"at least I used a caveat.

That’s true you did. I think most people are more nuanced in their views than can be properly categorised by right or left wing labels.
It’s a kind of shorthand, like which club someone supports. What’s he like? He’s Millwall. He’s Chelsea. He’s West Ham - conjure up an instant impression. Not Palace though. Like the Pink Panther we are all gentlemen and scholars. Not necessarily acrobats though.

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Hrolf The Ganger 25 Jul 19 12.31pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Sure all political labels are terms of convenience, as are many such things, but nevertheless they do categorise people onto general groupings. If you don't sit so far on the right wing as to be nearly falling off then your posts here do an excellent job of confusing everyone. Me included, but I don't think my reasoning to be too far off the mark. I have actually noticed a lack of reflection from you, as you rarely take any time to consider things. Living in enclosed dark spaces, likes coffins, tends to have that effect. Try to get out into the light and open spaces. You can see a much brighter world out there. Despite what you might think, I have no allegiance to any political movement. My interests are purely self serving and my thoughts my own. I have seen plenty of the world in all senses and nothing I have seen makes me want to invite the worst parts of it to anywhere near me.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Sure all political labels are terms of convenience, as are many such things, but nevertheless they do categorise people onto general groupings. If you don't sit so far on the right wing as to be nearly falling off then your posts here do an excellent job of confusing everyone. Me included, but I don't think my reasoning to be too far off the mark.

Despite what you might think, I have no allegiance to any political movement. My interests are purely self serving and my thoughts my own.

I have seen plenty of the world in all senses and nothing I have seen makes me want to invite the worst parts of it to anywhere near me.

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Mapletree Croydon 25 Jul 19 1.12pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'BBC fake news - Tommy Robinson' by Midlands Eagle Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Sure all political labels are terms of convenience, as are many such things, but nevertheless they do categorise people onto general groupings. If you don't sit so far on the right wing as to be nearly falling off then your posts here do an excellent job of confusing everyone. Me included, but I don't think my reasoning to be too far off the mark. I have actually noticed a lack of reflection from you, as you rarely take any time to consider things. Living in enclosed dark spaces, likes coffins, tends to have that effect. Try to get out into the light and open spaces. You can see a much brighter world out there. A cruel suggestion Of course you know what would happen to him [Link]
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Croydon 25 Jul 19 1.12pm

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A cruel suggestion

Of course you know what would happen to him

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