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Mapletree Flag Croydon 27 Mar 19 3.59pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

According to the Pussy it is the wealthy and privileged in the form of his nemesis Jacob Rees-Mogg who are driving Brexit onwards

Rees-Mogg is a speculator who is in a position to operate arbitrage rapidly.

Speculation benefits from major disruption. Especially if you see it coming because you have influenced its happening

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 27 Mar 19 4.22pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Like Corbyn whose stance on Europe has been rock steady. He’s a politician; they’re all as bad as each other.

Right, so your argument about JRM’s education/background was a pointless one, because you agree he rightly deserves criticism here.

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 27 Mar 19 4.26pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Right, so your argument about JRM’s education/background was a pointless one, because you agree he rightly deserves criticism here.

On the contrary. I have no problem with him being criticised for what he does. I do have a problem with criticising him for the way he speaks or where he went to school.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 27 Mar 19 5.08pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Forget entirely where he was educated if you like; a man who’s position changes from ‘this deal would turn us into a slave state’ to ‘I support the deal’ all in the space of a few weeks, is not somebody I can ever support.

What’s more surprising is the willingness of Brexiters to defend him, just because he’s on their ‘side’. Surely any politician who goes back on themselves so obviously is worthy of criticism?

I never particularly liked JRM, but I thought he was at the very least principled. Even that has turned out to be untrue.

If you’re not aware, Mogg has changed because they face 3 outcomes.

1. No Brexit
2. A softer Brexit than May’s Brexit
3. May’s Brexit

This is well known and makes complete sense, if you’re willing to accept that’s why, rather than taking the opportunity to knock someone.

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 27 Mar 19 5.12pm

Which amendment do you prefer?

I like amendment K or Norway 2.00

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 27 Mar 19 5.13pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

This is exactly the point

For some reason we are being driven towards Brexit by the people who have the most to gain from it. That is because they compete at the lowest pay levels with EU immigrants

So the least well educated and least fiscally beneficial people to the country are making our choices for us. Now what could possibly go wrong with that!

That relatively minority group should instead have been given proper supports to have fulfilling roles but instead we take away practical training opportunities and destroy the industries most likely to offer them jobs. That is what should have been addressed, not competition from the EU. The EU competition will only be replaced by similar competition from Africa and South America anyway.

All those tradesmen from Uganda and Somalia? Yeah, possibly. They’ll mean there’ll be no training of suitable youngsters just like all the Polish willing to work for however much lower than the experienced tradesmen and other industries.

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 27 Mar 19 5.31pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

If you’re not aware, Mogg has changed because they face 3 outcomes.

1. No Brexit
2. A softer Brexit than May’s Brexit
3. May’s Brexit

This is well known and makes complete sense, if you’re willing to accept that’s why, rather than taking the opportunity to knock someone.

It doesn’t make sense at all - he either believes it’s a terrible deal that makes us a slave state, or he thinks it’s worth supporting - you cannot do both and claim that to be a sensible position.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 27 Mar 19 5.32pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

On the contrary. I have no problem with him being criticised for what he does. I do have a problem with criticising him for the way he speaks or where he went to school.

Fair enough - initially, I thought you introduced his background/education into the discussion, but having re-read the thread, I see that wasn’t the case.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 27 Mar 19 5.45pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

All those tradesmen from Uganda and Somalia? Yeah, possibly. They’ll mean there’ll be no training of suitable youngsters just like all the Polish willing to work for however much lower than the experienced tradesmen and other industries.

again you're buying into this negative tabloid stereotyping, I actually lived temporarily in a shared house before I moved here, there were other people from other European countries, Bulgaria, Estonia and Romnania, they worked locally in all different jobs, a few of them in hospitality like Hotels and catering. They worked bloody hard, really geniune and nice people and those companies just wouldn't function without them. We'll never agree on this subject but my opinions at least come from first hand experience

 


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blackheatheagle Flag Beckenham 27 Mar 19 6.04pm Send a Private Message to blackheatheagle Add blackheatheagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
If you’re not aware, Mogg has changed because they face 3 outcomes.

1. No Brexit
2. A softer Brexit than May’s Brexit
3. May’s Brexit

This is well known and makes complete sense, if you’re willing to accept that’s why, rather than taking the opportunity to knock someone.

I think those were the only options since December when we exclude May’s hopeless trips to Brussels which unsurprisingly ended up with failure. Sounds like he pinched himself and realized that this deal is the only deal which can be the gateway for his Brexit wishes. But i am curious if he has a tangible plan to grab benefits of being out of EU while avoiding EU rules but having no right in EU parliament. Or in other words, what is his proposal to be away from single market? It would be a miracle to have a better deal after wasting 2 year of EU.

 

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chris123 Flag hove actually 27 Mar 19 6.08pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Rees-Mogg is a speculator who is in a position to operate arbitrage rapidly.

Speculation benefits from major disruption. Especially if you see it coming because you have influenced its happening

Somerset Capital is a mutual and not a hedge as far as I was aware.

 

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dannyboy1978 Flag 27 Mar 19 6.34pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

again you're buying into this negative tabloid stereotyping, I actually lived temporarily in a shared house before I moved here, there were other people from other European countries, Bulgaria, Estonia and Romnania, they worked locally in all different jobs, a few of them in hospitality like Hotels and catering. They worked bloody hard, really geniune and nice people and those companies just wouldn't function without them. We'll never agree on this subject but my opinions at least come from first hand experience

That's all very nice but you imply people from the centre right don't like foreigners which is wrong, we dislike the policy to allow so many foreigners in, two totally different things

 

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