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dreamwaverider London 26 Mar 19 9.23am
Originally posted by Badger11 We are in the current mess because of the Irish back stop. The EU will not remove the back stop because they do not want border controls. The ERG propose that these customs controls could be done electronically and away from the border (Max Facilitation) the EU rejected this idea as impractical. Meanwhile the EU has announced that if there is a no deal Brexit customs controls will be done electronically and away from the border err. We are in this mess because we have the second weakest leader since the war, the first being Cameron. Neither wanted Brexit, yet both allowed it. If May really believed in it, which she doesn't, she would have been promoting a 'no deal' last year onwards and we would be days from exiting. Instead we have this chronic mess. She cannot make a decision on her own. Another true snowflake. With the useless bunch of hopelessness overcrowding Whitehall, I honestly believe we would be better now to stay in until the EU implodes which is not far away.
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Originally posted by Badger11

We are in the current mess because of the Irish back stop. The EU will not remove the back stop because they do not want border controls. The ERG propose that these customs controls could be done electronically and away from the border (Max Facilitation) the EU rejected this idea as impractical.

Meanwhile the EU has announced that if there is a no deal Brexit customs controls will be done electronically and away from the border err.

We are in this mess because we have the second weakest leader since the war, the first being Cameron. Neither wanted Brexit, yet both allowed it.
If May really believed in it, which she doesn't, she would have been promoting a 'no deal' last year onwards and we would be days from exiting.
Instead we have this chronic mess. She cannot make a decision on her own. Another true snowflake.
With the useless bunch of hopelessness overcrowding Whitehall, I honestly believe we would be better now to stay in until the EU implodes which is not far away.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Mar 19 9.24am
Originally posted by Badger11 We are in the current mess because of the Irish back stop. The EU will not remove the back stop because they do not want border controls. The ERG propose that these customs controls could be done electronically and away from the border (Max Facilitation) the EU rejected this idea as impractical. Meanwhile the EU has announced that if there is a no deal Brexit customs controls will be done electronically and away from the border err. 1. ?? 2. Sums the sl&gs up for what they are. COYP
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Caterham 26 Mar 19 9.24am

Originally posted by Badger11

We are in the current mess because of the Irish back stop. The EU will not remove the back stop because they do not want border controls. The ERG propose that these customs controls could be done electronically and away from the border (Max Facilitation) the EU rejected this idea as impractical.

Meanwhile the EU has announced that if there is a no deal Brexit customs controls will be done electronically and away from the border err.

1. ??

2. Sums the sl&gs up for what they are.

COYP

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dreamwaverider London 26 Mar 19 9.27am
'No deal" !!! Do they think this is a TV show?? May is not capable of blowing soap suds let alone snowflakes. She has gone a long way to really messing up this country and is just about to wishy wash her way to national set back. She has the power to call Brexit tomorrow, but she doesn't use what she was voted in for. Power and leadership, two things she is clearly terrified of.
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London 26 Mar 19 9.27am

'No deal" !!!
Do they think this is a TV show??
May is not capable of blowing soap suds let alone snowflakes. She has gone a long way to really messing up this country and is just about to wishy wash her way to national set back.
She has the power to call Brexit tomorrow, but she doesn't use what she was voted in for. Power and leadership, two things she is clearly terrified of.

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Pussay Patrol 26 Mar 19 9.34am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Are you really this simple? Please don’t answer. Or are you 9? Do you not understand that exports GROW/EXPAND an economy because in simplistic terms the other countries are handing money over to us for the goods. Or do you think Germany’s economy doesn’t matter to someone not in the export business? No I meant you personally. You're in the export business or your job involves exporting goods? Do you have any examples of the new market opportunities you refer to? I'm Intrigued Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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26 Mar 19 9.34am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Are you really this simple? Please don’t answer. Or are you 9?

Do you not understand that exports GROW/EXPAND an economy because in simplistic terms the other countries are handing money over to us for the goods.

Or do you think Germany’s economy doesn’t matter to someone not in the export business?

No I meant you personally. You're in the export business or your job involves exporting goods?

Do you have any examples of the new market opportunities you refer to? I'm Intrigued

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Mar 19 9.38am
Originally posted by dreamwaverider We are in this mess because we have the second weakest leader since the war, the first being Cameron. Neither wanted Brexit, yet both allowed it. If May really believed in it, which she doesn't, she would have been promoting a 'no deal' last year onwards and we would be days from exiting. Instead we have this chronic mess. She cannot make a decision on her own. Another true snowflake. With the useless bunch of hopelessness overcrowding Whitehall, I honestly believe we would be better now to stay in until the EU implodes which is not far away. 100% agree in bold. I partly agree with your surrender but the problem is I fear that if the EU’s implosion is 10+ years away then we’re still stuck with their decision making for our land. However, the rebalancing is going to take quite a while for the benefit of generations to come. But then if we were spending that 10+ years starting to develop new emerging markets and projects then we’d be in a better place after the EU collapse. I always thought pro Brexit Andrea Leadsome would’ve been a better bet but she made a comment millions of people would’ve made and the major point of the vote regarding children and their future, plus she didn’t have cabinet experience. The press destroyed that possibility so we were stuck with ‘That bl00dy difficult woman’ who is actually that bl00dy useless woman unless it’s administration. Anything involving human interaction and she’s a complete waste of time. COYP
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Caterham 26 Mar 19 9.38am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

With the useless bunch of hopelessness overcrowding Whitehall, I honestly believe we would be better now to stay in until the EU implodes which is not far away.

100% agree in bold. I partly agree with your surrender but the problem is I fear that if the EU’s implosion is 10+ years away then we’re still stuck with their decision making for our land. However, the rebalancing is going to take quite a while for the benefit of generations to come. But then if we were spending that 10+ years starting to develop new emerging markets and projects then we’d be in a better place after the EU collapse.

I always thought pro Brexit Andrea Leadsome would’ve been a better bet but she made a comment millions of people would’ve made and the major point of the vote regarding children and their future, plus she didn’t have cabinet experience. The press destroyed that possibility so we were stuck with ‘That bl00dy difficult woman’ who is actually that bl00dy useless woman unless it’s administration. Anything involving human interaction and she’s a complete waste of time.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Mar 19 9.45am
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol No I meant you personally. You're in the export business or your job involves exporting goods? Do you have any examples of the new market opportunities you refer to? I'm Intrigued There’s a whole world out there. Our exports to the EU fell below 50% well before the financial crises in 2008 and keep falling. Obviously our non EU exports are above 50% and keep growing. You’re obviously unaware of this and have been sucked into the short term thinking, management and planning that has plagued this country for decades which has eventually become because we don’t want to forego a few non essential things in our addiction to buy and consume cr&p and tat. Well done to all in that mindset. It’ll hold our country back for time ahead. My business is completely irrelevant. Exports expand an economy. The end. Edited by Rudi Hedman (26 Mar 2019 9.46am) COYP
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Caterham 26 Mar 19 9.45am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

No I meant you personally. You're in the export business or your job involves exporting goods?

Do you have any examples of the new market opportunities you refer to? I'm Intrigued

There’s a whole world out there. Our exports to the EU fell below 50% well before the financial crises in 2008 and keep falling. Obviously our non EU exports are above 50% and keep growing. You’re obviously unaware of this and have been sucked into the short term thinking, management and planning that has plagued this country for decades which has eventually become because we don’t want to forego a few non essential things in our addiction to buy and consume cr&p and tat. Well done to all in that mindset. It’ll hold our country back for time ahead.

My business is completely irrelevant. Exports expand an economy. The end.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (26 Mar 2019 9.46am)

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steeleye20 Croydon 26 Mar 19 10.19am
Originally posted by Badger11 We are in the current mess because of the Irish back stop. The EU will not remove the back stop because they do not want border controls. The ERG propose that these customs controls could be done electronically and away from the border (Max Facilitation) the EU rejected this idea as impractical. Meanwhile the EU has announced that if there is a no deal Brexit customs controls will be done electronically and away from the border err. No we are in the current mess because there is no whole-hearted consent for brexit as was necessary in 1975, 52/48 either way doesn't cut it. The result is paralysis and the future is of chaos and futility for many years with endless leave-remain tribalism. The only way out is to revoke article 50 now.
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Croydon 26 Mar 19 10.19am

Originally posted by Badger11

Meanwhile the EU has announced that if there is a no deal Brexit customs controls will be done electronically and away from the border err.

No we are in the current mess because there is no whole-hearted consent for brexit as was necessary in 1975, 52/48 either way doesn't cut it.

The result is paralysis and the future is of chaos and futility for many years with endless leave-remain tribalism.

The only way out is to revoke article 50 now.

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dannyboy1978 26 Mar 19 10.38am
Originally posted by steeleye20 No we are in the current mess because there is no whole-hearted consent for brexit as was necessary in 1975, 52/48 either way doesn't cut it. The result is paralysis and the future is of chaos and futility for many years with endless leave-remain tribalism. The only way out is to revoke article 50 now. Current mess is not the leavers fault, just give us we we voted for
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26 Mar 19 10.38am

Originally posted by steeleye20

No we are in the current mess because there is no whole-hearted consent for brexit as was necessary in 1975, 52/48 either way doesn't cut it.

The result is paralysis and the future is of chaos and futility for many years with endless leave-remain tribalism.

The only way out is to revoke article 50 now.

Current mess is not the leavers fault, just give us we we voted for

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dannyboy1978 26 Mar 19 10.52am
For you remainers I ask you to listne to every word , word for word and recognise the support from the back benches. This has been a con a lie and NON democracy. Even you as a remainer must listne to this and see we have a diseetful parliament. The next time you have somthing close to your heart and want to trust your government I hope you remember this. [Link]
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26 Mar 19 10.52am

For you remainers I ask you to listne to every word , word for word and recognise the support from the back benches.

This has been a con a lie and NON democracy.
Even you as a remainer must listne to this and see we have a diseetful parliament. The next time you have somthing close to your heart and want to trust your government I hope you remember this.

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 26 Mar 19 12.50pm
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 For you remainers I ask you to listne to every word , word for word and recognise the support from the back benches. This has been a con a lie and NON democracy. Even you as a remainer must listne to this and see we have a diseetful parliament. The next time you have somthing close to your heart and want to trust your government I hope you remember this. [Link] I struggle to understand why this is a new thing for you. The things you talk about have always been at the core of Parliament, and Democracy for that matter. If anything this just smacks of misplaced trust and massive amounts of naivety. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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Addiscombe West 26 Mar 19 12.50pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

For you remainers I ask you to listne to every word , word for word and recognise the support from the back benches.

[Link]

I struggle to understand why this is a new thing for you. The things you talk about have always been at the core of Parliament, and Democracy for that matter. If anything this just smacks of misplaced trust and massive amounts of naivety.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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Stirlingsays 26 Mar 19 1.03pm
I must admit....the longer the whole Brexit saga goes on the more amused about it all I get. Maybe this is just the way I react to things.....but the more extreme the emotion the more amusement accompanies it.....and I say that as a staunch leaver of course. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

26 Mar 19 1.03pm

I must admit....the longer the whole Brexit saga goes on the more amused about it all I get.

Maybe this is just the way I react to things.....but the more extreme the emotion the more amusement accompanies it.....and I say that as a staunch leaver of course.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Rubin 26 Mar 19 1.03pm
[Link] Article 13 has just been passed.
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26 Mar 19 1.03pm

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Article 13 has just been passed.

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