"As the BNP's own Language and Concepts Discipline manual advised, Griffin wished his party to be perceived as a "rightwing populist party" that espoused "right-of-centre views traditional to ordinary working people who are not leftists'. In fact, throughout its existence, the BNP has remained profoundly fascist, dedicated to a "revolution" that would make Britain an ethnically "pure" society. The BNP had its roots in the most extreme sections of Britain's far right. Griffin developed his own personal ideology from a concoction of "leftwing" nazism, racist mysticism and ideas borrowed from the French Front National about how to pursue cultural hegemony in order to win political power."

You cut and paste that from the GUARDIAN as some sort of back up to your 'fascist' claim!!!

Man that's hilarious.

Any other lefty credentials you want to put on here for me to laugh at?

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Oct 2018 12.49pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Fascism:is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe

"The British National Party stands for the preservation of the national and ethnic character of the British people and is wholly opposed to any form of racial integration between British and non-European peoples. It is therefore committed to stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration and to restoring, by legal changes, negotiation and consent, the overwhelmingly white make-up of the British population that existed in Britain prior to 1948."

Now we're getting closer.... Radical Islam isn't a massive problem per se... if it was... we'd have a rise of far right parties gaining ground in elections. That doesn't mean Islam doesn't have problems.
Tackling the problems with Islam is politically toxic... the same as tackling crime in the black community... but once people start voting for far right fascist parties, the centre and the left will get worried about their position, and will confront it.

TR still isn't the answer... he is a convicted liar... a thug.... and not very bright... the far right will need a better/smarter figurehead if they want to be taken seriously.

I don't think anyone thinks he is. But the evidence is that he has been an effective rallying point against the deliberate indifference of the establishment.

So the 22 killed at the Manchester bombing isn't a massive problem? And the thousands of girls raped by pakistan men in racist attacks? And the thousands of women who have undergone FGM... Your yardstick is we don't have "far right parties?" so it's not an issue. Eh?

Tommy is pro Israel which doesn't make him a very good person on the far right.

The reason why tackling the problems with Islam is "toxic" is because anyone does so is labelled 'far right' by the media and the political left. Nobody wants to confront it which is terrible. Here we have the vicious circle.

Maajid Nawaz agrees with almost everything Tommy Robinson says about the issue. He used to be in a terrorist organisation – but has since renounced extremism. Can't Tommy do the same? Maajid has his own show on LBC – so do you regard him as a terrorist?

Edited by Penge Eagle (09 Oct 2018 1.02pm)