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Hrolf The Ganger 22 Jul 18 2.05pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Not so. I've already explained that I moved the thread out of sight because several complaints had been received last night and I didn't want to deal with them until the morning. My thoughts (and it's only a guess) is that someone had been celebrating Palace's win a bit too strenuously which affected his judgement on appropriate language And you do this for free? That is dedication beyond the call of duty.
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Not so. I've already explained that I moved the thread out of sight because several complaints had been received last night and I didn't want to deal with them until the morning.

My thoughts (and it's only a guess) is that someone had been celebrating Palace's win a bit too strenuously which affected his judgement on appropriate language

And you do this for free?
That is dedication beyond the call of duty.

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Hrolf The Ganger 22 Jul 18 2.08pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays The thread became like a magnet for half understanding virtue signalling....I think that egged on our friend to think he was the vanguard for the inarticulate resistance, a role which he was rather over enthusiastic in undertaking in unfortunate directions. That said, there were some good contributions and good points made by others. But we can't have a thread that offends some people's sensibilities so it was taken down.....If the site felt that way I fully support it as threats aren't positive. This is the way society is going. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Jul 2018 12.59pm) And exactly what some of us are trying to resist. It will come to a point where any discussion about politics has to be had in private.
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22 Jul 18 2.08pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The thread became like a magnet for half understanding virtue signalling....I think that egged on our friend to think he was the vanguard for the inarticulate resistance, a role which he was rather over enthusiastic in undertaking in unfortunate directions.

That said, there were some good contributions and good points made by others.

But we can't have a thread that offends some people's sensibilities so it was taken down.....If the site felt that way I fully support it as threats aren't positive.

This is the way society is going.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Jul 2018 12.59pm)

And exactly what some of us are trying to resist.
It will come to a point where any discussion about politics has to be had in private.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jul 18 3.01pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger And exactly what some of us are trying to resist. It will come to a point where any discussion about politics has to be had in private. Won't be long before any discussion is shouted down by one group or another.I find I can't express what I really think in general. In all fairness this has happened in many historical eras so I shouldn't be surprised. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jul 18 3.01pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

And exactly what some of us are trying to resist.
It will come to a point where any discussion about politics has to be had in private.

Won't be long before any discussion is shouted down by one group or another.I find I can't express what I really think in general. In all fairness this has happened in many historical eras so I shouldn't be surprised.

Red and Blue Army!

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Eustace H. Plimsoll Aldershot 22 Jul 18 3.07pm
You guys do know this is just a football forum, right?? (Yeah, but it's a snap-shot and microcosm of soci... ffffffffffttttttttththhhhhh. Nope.) As a woman, I can step aside, or step up my game...
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You guys do know this is just a football forum, right??

(Yeah, but it's a snap-shot and microcosm of soci... ffffffffffttttttttththhhhhh. Nope.)

As a woman, I can step aside, or step up my game...

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jul 18 3.17pm
Originally posted by Eustace H. Plimsoll You guys do know this is just a football forum, right?? (Yeah, but it's a snap-shot and microcosm of soci... ffffffffffttttttttththhhhhh. Nope.) This is the news and politics part of it though. Surely you like a good debate (argument) or two? I find it quite fun. Especially in the off-season. Once the season starts, I'm sure Palace results will become more of a concern than political figures such as Trump. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jul 18 3.17pm

Originally posted by Eustace H. Plimsoll

You guys do know this is just a football forum, right??

(Yeah, but it's a snap-shot and microcosm of soci... ffffffffffttttttttththhhhhh. Nope.)

This is the news and politics part of it though. Surely you like a good debate (argument) or two? I find it quite fun. Especially in the off-season. Once the season starts, I'm sure Palace results will become more of a concern than political figures such as Trump.

Red and Blue Army!

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Stirlingsays 23 Jul 18 8.38pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC This is the news and politics part of it though. Surely you like a good debate (argument) or two? I find it quite fun. Especially in the off-season. Once the season starts, I'm sure Palace results will become more of a concern than political figures such as Trump. If we are relegated the Trump thread might break all records. Because somehow he or Putin did it. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Jul 2018 8.39pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Jul 18 8.38pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

If we are relegated the Trump thread might break all records.

Because somehow he or Putin did it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Jul 2018 8.39pm)

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silvertop Portishead 24 Jul 18 9.21am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger And exactly what some of us are trying to resist. It will come to a point where any discussion about politics has to be had in private. The issue was that this debate centred on race. These days it is so sensitive a subject that you can almost justify child molestation before you can opine on racial profiles. Rubbish, of course, as it is hardly novel to print bland statistical correlations between ethnic groups and voting. And it is no great leap from that to connect increased immigration with a change in voting habits. Where the OP may have crossed the line is stating that immigration is a bad thing as it will swing this country to the left. However, isn't that what free debate is all about..?
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

And exactly what some of us are trying to resist.
It will come to a point where any discussion about politics has to be had in private.

The issue was that this debate centred on race. These days it is so sensitive a subject that you can almost justify child molestation before you can opine on racial profiles. Rubbish, of course, as it is hardly novel to print bland statistical correlations between ethnic groups and voting. And it is no great leap from that to connect increased immigration with a change in voting habits. Where the OP may have crossed the line is stating that immigration is a bad thing as it will swing this country to the left. However, isn't that what free debate is all about..?

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Stirlingsays 28 Jul 18 6.08pm
So Trump gets his way with the EU with trade negotiations. When we look at the reporting from the British UK media......They just don't mention that this is a big win for him.....and common sense for the EU who just can't afford trade wars. One of the things that the EU has agreed to buy more from the US? SOY BEANS. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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So Trump gets his way with the EU with trade negotiations.

When we look at the reporting from the British UK media......They just don't mention that this is a big win for him.....and common sense for the EU who just can't afford trade wars.

One of the things that the EU has agreed to buy more from the US? SOY BEANS.

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europalace Europe 28 Jul 18 7.13pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays So Trump gets his way with the EU with trade negotiations. When we look at the reporting from the British UK media......They just don't mention that this is a big win for him.....and common sense for the EU who just can't afford trade wars. One of the things that the EU has agreed to buy more from the US? SOY BEANS. Er, no. Trump gave in to the EU. His sabre rattling is just that, he always makes u-turns, just like the UK government with brexit. He realised aftermassive complaints from his own farmers and car manufacturers (who import many components from the EU) that he would start to lose votes with his tariffs, hence the cave in. The EU agreed a deal in a couple of days because the US wants to trade with the largest trade bloc in the world, whether Trump likes it or not. Meanwhile the UK can't agree anything, even after 2 years of talking with the EU. Edited by europalace (28 Jul 2018 7.14pm)
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Europe 28 Jul 18 7.13pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

So Trump gets his way with the EU with trade negotiations.

When we look at the reporting from the British UK media......They just don't mention that this is a big win for him.....and common sense for the EU who just can't afford trade wars.

One of the things that the EU has agreed to buy more from the US? SOY BEANS.

Er, no. Trump gave in to the EU. His sabre rattling is just that, he always makes u-turns, just like the UK government with brexit. He realised aftermassive complaints from his own farmers and car manufacturers (who import many components from the EU) that he would start to lose votes with his tariffs, hence the cave in. The EU agreed a deal in a couple of days because the US wants to trade with the largest trade bloc in the world, whether Trump likes it or not. Meanwhile the UK can't agree anything, even after 2 years of talking with the EU.

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steeleye20 Croydon 28 Jul 18 7.30pm
Originally posted by europalace Er, no. Trump gave in to the EU. His sabre rattling is just that, he always makes u-turns, just like the UK government with brexit. He realised aftermassive complaints from his own farmers and car manufacturers (who import many components from the EU) that he would start to lose votes with his tariffs, hence the cave in. The EU agreed a deal in a couple of days because the US wants to trade with the largest trade bloc in the world, whether Trump likes it or not. Meanwhile the UK can't agree anything, even after 2 years of talking with the EU. I see that, Trump is paying people off like Qualcomm who are facing increased import costs due to his policies pushing prices up to US consumers. So tax dollars and increased prices as well. Protectionism - bit of a dummy isn't he. Apparently Junckers had brightly coloured idiot cards that explained what their trading relations were. He made no claims unlike Trump but said it was 'constructive'. Edited by bexleydave (28 Jul 2018 9.56pm)
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Originally posted by europalace

I see that, Trump is paying people off like Qualcomm who are facing increased import costs due to his policies pushing prices up to US consumers.

So tax dollars and increased prices as well.

Protectionism - bit of a dummy isn't he.

Apparently Junckers had brightly coloured idiot cards that explained what their trading relations were.

He made no claims unlike Trump but said it was 'constructive'.

Edited by bexleydave (28 Jul 2018 9.56pm)

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Stirlingsays 29 Jul 18 12.14am
Originally posted by europalace Er, no. Trump gave in to the EU. His sabre rattling is just that, he always makes u-turns, just like the UK government with brexit. He realised aftermassive complaints from his own farmers and car manufacturers (who import many components from the EU) that he would start to lose votes with his tariffs, hence the cave in. The EU agreed a deal in a couple of days because the US wants to trade with the largest trade bloc in the world, whether Trump likes it or not. Meanwhile the UK can't agree anything, even after 2 years of talking with the EU. Edited by europalace (28 Jul 2018 7.14pm) Is this your 'Trump derangement' kicking in? There is reality and then there's what you are writing. Brussels came to Washington. Juncker came to Trump, not the other way around. The EU were desperate to avoid a trade war. In Juncker's own words, the EU came with 'a bridge to sell'. For the US not engaging in a trade war which would affect the EU far more than the US due to balance on trade....the EU has promised to buy more gas and SOYBEANS and work with the US on the WTO. The anti Trump machine is in overdrive looking to underplay this success for Trump anyway it can.....They are prepared to lie and nitpick out of dislike and painfully transparent media agendas. The truth is that the US will see its trade imbalance with the EU improve or those tariffs will be introduced. People like May should see that when the German car industry is actually threatened with real intent that deals can be made. Trump told her that she had the wrong mindset with the EU and we are seeing what happens when you have remainers in charge. Enjoy your US Soybeans. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jul 2018 12.31am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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29 Jul 18 12.14am

Originally posted by europalace

Edited by europalace (28 Jul 2018 7.14pm)

Is this your 'Trump derangement' kicking in? There is reality and then there's what you are writing.

Brussels came to Washington. Juncker came to Trump, not the other way around. The EU were desperate to avoid a trade war. In Juncker's own words, the EU came with 'a bridge to sell'.

For the US not engaging in a trade war which would affect the EU far more than the US due to balance on trade....the EU has promised to buy more gas and SOYBEANS and work with the US on the WTO.

The anti Trump machine is in overdrive looking to underplay this success for Trump anyway it can.....They are prepared to lie and nitpick out of dislike and painfully transparent media agendas.

The truth is that the US will see its trade imbalance with the EU improve or those tariffs will be introduced.

People like May should see that when the German car industry is actually threatened with real intent that deals can be made. Trump told her that she had the wrong mindset with the EU and we are seeing what happens when you have remainers in charge.

Enjoy your US Soybeans.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jul 2018 12.31am)

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europalace Europe 29 Jul 18 9.40am
The UK was part of the negotiation as it's still an EU member, so you will also enjoy the soy beans. Still, we buy a few soy beans and the US buys lots of cars and components that the US car manufacturing companies need. That's a massive EU win but of course I expected those in denial to remain in denial. The EU moves on with a nice deal with the US and also 2 weeks ago a massive deal with Japan. The UK meanwhile is still talking about a tiddly border in Ireland. Edited by europalace (29 Jul 2018 9.40am)
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Europe 29 Jul 18 9.40am

The UK was part of the negotiation as it's still an EU member, so you will also enjoy the soy beans.

Still, we buy a few soy beans and the US buys lots of cars and components that the US car manufacturing companies need. That's a massive EU win but of course I expected those in denial to remain in denial. The EU moves on with a nice deal with the US and also 2 weeks ago a massive deal with Japan. The UK meanwhile is still talking about a tiddly border in Ireland.

Edited by europalace (29 Jul 2018 9.40am)

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