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legaleagle 14 May 17 7.57pm
Originally posted by matt_himself Rumpole, you are correct. You can look at matters from both biased and prejudiced angles. The above post is proof of this. Mr Uphimself,you rarely fail to bring a smile to my lips..thank you, and on a day like this after a game like that...peace and goodwill to you ps. v happy to be associated with "the master of the Bailey"..he was so much better than me and "won" most of his cases Edited by legaleagle (14 May 2017 7.58pm)
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14 May 17 7.57pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Rumpole, you are correct.

You can look at matters from both biased and prejudiced angles.

The above post is proof of this.

Mr Uphimself,you rarely fail to bring a smile to my lips..thank you, and on a day like this after a game like that...peace and goodwill to you

ps. v happy to be associated with "the master of the Bailey"..he was so much better than me and "won" most of his cases

Edited by legaleagle (14 May 2017 7.58pm)

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serial thriller The Promised Land 14 May 17 8.44pm
Here's a really interesting stat for ya. The polls are now suggesting that Corbyn's Labour will outperform Milliband's. Big slap in the face for those who claim that what Labour need is to move back to the right. Still grim af that the Tories are so far ahead though. Hopefully the scrutiny on their record will increase as the weeks go by and people will realise how clueless and out of their depth their main hitters are. If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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Here's a really interesting stat for ya. The polls are now suggesting that Corbyn's Labour will outperform Milliband's. Big slap in the face for those who claim that what Labour need is to move back to the right.

Still grim af that the Tories are so far ahead though. Hopefully the scrutiny on their record will increase as the weeks go by and people will realise how clueless and out of their depth their main hitters are.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 May 17 11.18pm
[Link] If the Tories are so great, why have nurses voted to strike for the first time ever?
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If the Tories are so great, why have nurses voted to strike for the first time ever?

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serial thriller The Promised Land 15 May 17 3.12am
Originally posted by Willo Possibly a security issue relating to a 'Prime Minister'.Let's wait and see when the Conservative election campaign is in 'Full Swing' shall we when a raft of ministers will be out in force. In general the Conservatives are appealing to the electorate at large, Corbyn only to his fellow comrades. Regards Corbyn's "Public talks", how can one be sure that these people are NOT hand-picked either ? In any event I was referring to the general message rather than what the leaders have been doing in public thus far. When I mentioned 'Agenda', Corbyn is only appealing to his core membership and not to the wider public with the suggestion that far from trying to win an election he just wants to ensure he will remain leader for some time. Must go out now to do Tory election things !!!! Edited by Willo (10 May 2017 11.53am) This was Corbyn in York recently. Good luck hand picking a crowd like that. Look at that picture and compare it to a May one. Literally any picture from her campaign. Those who think the Tories are the party of the people...they never have been and they never will be. They are laughing at us from behind their police lines and tinted glass. One side is calling for engagement, the other side is being as quiet as possible. Interesting times. Attachment: Screen-Shot-2016-06-27-at-21.29.03-440x249.png (197.90Kb) If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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The Promised Land 15 May 17 3.12am

Originally posted by Willo

Possibly a security issue relating to a 'Prime Minister'.Let's wait and see when the Conservative election campaign is in 'Full Swing' shall we when a raft of ministers will be out in force.
In general the Conservatives are appealing to the electorate at large, Corbyn only to his fellow comrades.

Regards Corbyn's "Public talks", how can one be sure that these people are NOT hand-picked either ? In any event I was referring to the general message rather than what the leaders have been doing in public thus far.

When I mentioned 'Agenda', Corbyn is only appealing to his core membership and not to the wider public with the suggestion that far from trying to win an election he just wants to ensure he will remain leader for some time.

Must go out now to do Tory election things !!!!

Edited by Willo (10 May 2017 11.53am)

This was Corbyn in York recently. Good luck hand picking a crowd like that.

Look at that picture and compare it to a May one. Literally any picture from her campaign.

Those who think the Tories are the party of the people...they never have been and they never will be. They are laughing at us from behind their police lines and tinted glass.

One side is calling for engagement, the other side is being as quiet as possible. Interesting times.

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matt_himself Matataland 15 May 17 3.59am
Originally posted by serial thriller Here's a really interesting stat for ya. The polls are now suggesting that Corbyn's Labour will outperform Milliband's. Big slap in the face for those who claim that what Labour need is to move back to the right. Still grim af that the Tories are so far ahead though. Hopefully the scrutiny on their record will increase as the weeks go by and people will realise how clueless and out of their depth their main hitters are. I think it is very interesting that you view this as 'success'. He may win a bigger share than Miliband but he will be wiped out in Scotland and marginalised in Wales, two traditional Labour heartlands. Hardly success and without winning votes in each, he will never win an election. Unfortunately for you, the measure of success is winning elections and gaining power, thus being able to enact policies. And whom was the last Labour leader to win an election? Tony Blair. Unfortunately if Labour do want power, they will have to use centre left politics to gain it. Edited by matt_himself (15 May 2017 4.05am) "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 15 May 17 3.59am

Originally posted by serial thriller

I think it is very interesting that you view this as 'success'.

He may win a bigger share than Miliband but he will be wiped out in Scotland and marginalised in Wales, two traditional Labour heartlands. Hardly success and without winning votes in each, he will never win an election.

Unfortunately for you, the measure of success is winning elections and gaining power, thus being able to enact policies. And whom was the last Labour leader to win an election? Tony Blair. Unfortunately if Labour do want power, they will have to use centre left politics to gain it.

Edited by matt_himself (15 May 2017 4.05am)

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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matt_himself Matataland 15 May 17 4.03am
Originally posted by legaleagle Mr Uphimself,you rarely fail to bring a smile to my lips..thank you, and on a day like this after a game like that...peace and goodwill to you ps. v happy to be associated with "the master of the Bailey"..he was so much better than me and "won" most of his cases Edited by legaleagle (14 May 2017 7.58pm) I love the fact that you think you are better than than those whom hold differing political views to you on here, yet you are the first to use insults and name calling, however petty and poor they may be. Do you do this in court? Say to the jury, 'well you only have to look at him to see he is guilty'? Maybe some self analysis before analysing others is in order. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 15 May 17 4.03am

Originally posted by legaleagle

Mr Uphimself,you rarely fail to bring a smile to my lips..thank you, and on a day like this after a game like that...peace and goodwill to you

ps. v happy to be associated with "the master of the Bailey"..he was so much better than me and "won" most of his cases

Edited by legaleagle (14 May 2017 7.58pm)

I love the fact that you think you are better than than those whom hold differing political views to you on here, yet you are the first to use insults and name calling, however petty and poor they may be. Do you do this in court? Say to the jury, 'well you only have to look at him to see he is guilty'?

Maybe some self analysis before analysing others is in order.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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legaleagle 15 May 17 9.19am
Originally posted by matt_himself I love the fact that you think you are better than than those whom hold differing political views to you on here, yet you are the first to use insults and name calling, however petty and poor they may be. Do you do this in court? Say to the jury, 'well you only have to look at him to see he is guilty'? Maybe some self analysis before analysing others is in order. Dear Mr Uphimself, Thanks for another piece of searingly bonkers miles off the mark insight. Step outside of your fantasy world for one moment (if you can) ... you are without doubt the reigning king of gratuitously insulting people on here...I could only ever be second rate compared to yourself.. You are also (fair enough,its a free country)one of the most biased posters on here...never seeing fault in "your own". I may be all the things you say (or maybe not in fact) but relative to yourself, I am but a pretender.Don't project your own insecurities onto me...you just show yourself up.
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15 May 17 9.19am

Originally posted by matt_himself

Maybe some self analysis before analysing others is in order.

Dear Mr Uphimself,

Thanks for another piece of searingly bonkers miles off the mark insight.

Step outside of your fantasy world for one moment (if you can) ...

you are without doubt the reigning king of gratuitously insulting people on here...I could only ever be second rate compared to yourself..

You are also (fair enough,its a free country)one of the most biased posters on here...never seeing fault in "your own".

I may be all the things you say (or maybe not in fact) but relative to yourself, I am but a pretender.Don't project your own insecurities onto me...you just show yourself up.

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matt_himself Matataland 15 May 17 9.34am
Originally posted by legaleagle Dear Mr Uphimself, Thanks for another piece of searingly bonkers miles off the mark insight. Step outside of your fantasy world for one moment (if you can) ... you are without doubt the reigning king of gratuitously insulting people on here...I could only ever be second rate compared to yourself.. You are also (fair enough,its a free country)one of the most biased posters on here...never seeing fault in "your own". I may be all the things you say (or maybe not in fact) but relative to yourself, I am but a pretender.Don't project your own insecurities onto me...you just show yourself up. In the land of blind the one eyed man is king. Anyway, back to the election. Are you happy with Labours progress during this election? "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 15 May 17 9.34am

Originally posted by legaleagle

Dear Mr Uphimself,

Thanks for another piece of searingly bonkers miles off the mark insight.

Step outside of your fantasy world for one moment (if you can) ...

you are without doubt the reigning king of gratuitously insulting people on here...I could only ever be second rate compared to yourself..

You are also (fair enough,its a free country)one of the most biased posters on here...never seeing fault in "your own".

I may be all the things you say (or maybe not in fact) but relative to yourself, I am but a pretender.Don't project your own insecurities onto me...you just show yourself up.

In the land of blind the one eyed man is king.

Anyway, back to the election.

Are you happy with Labours progress during this election?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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legaleagle 15 May 17 9.41am
Well, I have always thought the Tories would win,and by a good margin.I still do.I'm not personally a Corbyn admirer,as a leader (or non leader). But,getting 8 points off the scumbag's (woops,sorry I mean Tories' )lead is not bad going,so may not be the total wipe out some predict with glee (as opposed to sorrow on my part). Personally,am an undecided voter betwen: labour,Green and not voting. And you?
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15 May 17 9.41am

Well, I have always thought the Tories would win,and by a good margin.I still do.I'm not personally a Corbyn admirer,as a leader (or non leader).

But,getting 8 points off the scumbag's (woops,sorry I mean Tories' )lead is not bad going,so may not be the total wipe out some predict with glee (as opposed to sorrow on my part).

Personally,am an undecided voter betwen: labour,Green and not voting.

And you?

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Mstrobez 15 May 17 9.54am
Originally posted by serial thriller Here's a really interesting stat for ya. The polls are now suggesting that Corbyn's Labour will outperform Milliband's. Big slap in the face for those who claim that what Labour need is to move back to the right. Still grim af that the Tories are so far ahead though. Hopefully the scrutiny on their record will increase as the weeks go by and people will realise how clueless and out of their depth their main hitters are. Sadly I think its exactly the opposite that will happen. The tories have the media in the palm of there hands and are biding their time IMO. They will see this Small bit of labour momentum and I'd think they'll be fairly relaxed about it, knowing that in the final couple of weeks the media will push them to a landslide. We're the Arthur over ere!
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15 May 17 9.54am

Originally posted by serial thriller

Sadly I think its exactly the opposite that will happen. The tories have the media in the palm of there hands and are biding their time IMO. They will see this Small bit of labour momentum and I'd think they'll be fairly relaxed about it, knowing that in the final couple of weeks the media will push them to a landslide.

We're the Arthur over ere!

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Mstrobez 15 May 17 9.56am
Originally posted by legaleagle Well, I have always thought the Tories would win,and by a good margin.I still do.I'm not personally a Corbyn admirer,as a leader (or non leader). But,getting 8 points off the scumbag's (woops,sorry I mean Tories' )lead is not bad going,so may not be the total wipe out some predict with glee (as opposed to sorrow on my part). Personally,am an undecided voter betwen: labour,Green and not voting. And you? I'm personally voting labour but [Link] is the place to go if still undecided in a couple of weeks. We're the Arthur over ere!
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15 May 17 9.56am

Originally posted by legaleagle

Well, I have always thought the Tories would win,and by a good margin.I still do.I'm not personally a Corbyn admirer,as a leader (or non leader).

But,getting 8 points off the scumbag's (woops,sorry I mean Tories' )lead is not bad going,so may not be the total wipe out some predict with glee (as opposed to sorrow on my part).

Personally,am an undecided voter betwen: labour,Green and not voting.

And you?

I'm personally voting labour but [Link] is the place to go if still undecided in a couple of weeks.

We're the Arthur over ere!

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hedgehog50 Croydon 15 May 17 10.33am
Originally posted by Mstrobez Sadly I think its exactly the opposite that will happen. The tories have the media in the palm of there hands and are biding their time IMO. They will see this Small bit of labour momentum and I'd think they'll be fairly relaxed about it, knowing that in the final couple of weeks the media will push them to a landslide. Is the BBC in the palm of the Tory hands? Is the Guardian or Observer or Independent in the palm of the Tory hands? Is social media in the palm of Tory hands? Are the right wing press necessarily in the palm of Tory hands - the Sun supported Blair's Labour remember. Are the British electorate too thick to make up their own minds. Just because they don't share your political views doesn't make their judgement wrong or led by the media. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 15 May 17 10.33am

Originally posted by Mstrobez

Sadly I think its exactly the opposite that will happen. The tories have the media in the palm of there hands and are biding their time IMO. They will see this Small bit of labour momentum and I'd think they'll be fairly relaxed about it, knowing that in the final couple of weeks the media will push them to a landslide.

Is the BBC in the palm of the Tory hands?
Is the Guardian or Observer or Independent in the palm of the Tory hands?
Is social media in the palm of Tory hands?
Are the right wing press necessarily in the palm of Tory hands - the Sun supported Blair's Labour remember.
Are the British electorate too thick to make up their own minds. Just because they don't share your political views doesn't make their judgement wrong or led by the media.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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