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Maine Eagle USA 25 Mar 19 12.07pm
Originally posted by Willo There are winners and losers in terms of the referendum. We will all be winners when we leave the EU !!!! This is the crux and I am very interested to hear your views on this. 1 - how did being in the EU inconvenience you in your daily life? 2 - what benefits will you experience in your daily life once we leave the EU? What are we doing this for exactly? Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.
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Maine Eagle

USA 25 Mar 19 12.07pm

Originally posted by Willo

There are winners and losers in terms of the referendum.

We will all be winners when we leave the EU !!!!

This is the crux and I am very interested to hear your views on this.

1 - how did being in the EU inconvenience you in your daily life?
2 - what benefits will you experience in your daily life once we leave the EU?

What are we doing this for exactly?

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

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Mapletree Croydon 25 Mar 19 12.11pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays 'Who Dares Wins ' is the motto of the SAS.....not an organization who fail to prepare. As for the Boers.....they lost. Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Mar 2019 11.56am) The SAS would NOT have entered any arena with this level of planning. They at least recognise that taking a leap in the dark is a sure fire way to lose. The reason it took so long to beat the Boers is precisely because everyone thought it would be easy so there was little preparation. I think the military learned lessons from that. Sadly the politicians appear not to have learned a similar lesson on being clear on the objective and then preparing thoroughly to follow through to its achievement. As a matter of interest, the shooting range in Park Hill was put in place in response to the dismal experience of the Boer war, along with many others. It was discovered the Brits couldn't shoot and the Boers could. Edited by Mapletree (25 Mar 2019 12.12pm)
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Mapletree

Croydon 25 Mar 19 12.11pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

'Who Dares Wins ' is the motto of the SAS.....not an organization who fail to prepare.

As for the Boers.....they lost.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Mar 2019 11.56am)

The SAS would NOT have entered any arena with this level of planning. They at least recognise that taking a leap in the dark is a sure fire way to lose.

The reason it took so long to beat the Boers is precisely because everyone thought it would be easy so there was little preparation. I think the military learned lessons from that. Sadly the politicians appear not to have learned a similar lesson on being clear on the objective and then preparing thoroughly to follow through to its achievement.

As a matter of interest, the shooting range in Park Hill was put in place in response to the dismal experience of the Boer war, along with many others. It was discovered the Brits couldn't shoot and the Boers could.

Edited by Mapletree (25 Mar 2019 12.12pm)

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Maine Eagle USA 25 Mar 19 12.16pm
Originally posted by ChrisGC Oh dear. 1) All of our acts of law form the basis of the legal definition of constitutional law regarding the treaty. [Link] 2) As for keeping up with current events? The EU cannot extend A50. They have agreed to accept an extension, should the proposal get through parliament. This is subject to unanimous approval and change in law. Thanks to Gina Miller, the UK must leave the EU on the 29th March. Your ignorance is staggering, your attempts to deflect your own misunderstandings shameless and the insults you hurl good indication that you are well and truly beaten. When the debate is over, slander is the tool of the loser. Take care. Edited by ChrisGC (25 Mar 2019 7.19am) Wrong again. The motion to extend article 50 was voted on and passed in parliament on March 14. It was then agreed by the EU. We are not leaving the EU on March 29. Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.
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Maine Eagle

USA 25 Mar 19 12.16pm

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Oh dear.
1) All of our acts of law form the basis of the legal definition of constitutional law regarding the treaty. [Link]
2) As for keeping up with current events?

The EU cannot extend A50. They have agreed to accept an extension, should the proposal get through parliament. This is subject to unanimous approval and change in law.

Thanks to Gina Miller, the UK must leave the EU on the 29th March.

Your ignorance is staggering, your attempts to deflect your own misunderstandings shameless and the insults you hurl good indication that you are well and truly beaten.

When the debate is over, slander is the tool of the loser.

Take care.

Edited by ChrisGC (25 Mar 2019 7.19am)

Wrong again.

The motion to extend article 50 was voted on and passed in parliament on March 14. It was then agreed by the EU.

We are not leaving the EU on March 29.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

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Stirlingsays 25 Mar 19 12.21pm
Originally posted by Mapletree The SAS would NOT have entered any arena with this level of planning. They at least recognise that taking a leap in the dark is a sure fire way to lose. I'll remind you of something you know. The SAS are told what to do. They then prepare. Their motto is 'Who Dares Wins'. While I have some respect I think we can both agree that you wouldn't have written a motto like that. Originally posted by Mapletree The reason it took so long to beat the Boers is precisely because everyone thought it would be easy so there was little preparation. I think the military learned lessons from that. Sadly the politicians appear not to have learned a similar lesson on being clear on the objective and then preparing thoroughly to follow through to its achievement. As a matter of interest, the shooting range in Park Hill was put in place in response to the dismal experience of the Boer war, along with many others. It was discovered the Brits couldn't shoot and the Boers could. Edited by Mapletree (25 Mar 2019 12.12pm) Hey this is your example not mine, but if we were going to go over the history of the two Boer wars it would reveal many mistakes and doubtful long term wise decisions for the British. However....the fact remains.....the Boers lost and given the time, dynamics and specifics of the war always were going to lose. The union of South Africa was established as a dominion of the British Empire in 1910. Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Mar 2019 12.22pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

25 Mar 19 12.21pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

The SAS would NOT have entered any arena with this level of planning. They at least recognise that taking a leap in the dark is a sure fire way to lose.

I'll remind you of something you know.

The SAS are told what to do.

They then prepare.

Their motto is 'Who Dares Wins'.

While I have some respect I think we can both agree that you wouldn't have written a motto like that.

Originally posted by Mapletree

Edited by Mapletree (25 Mar 2019 12.12pm)

Hey this is your example not mine, but if we were going to go over the history of the two Boer wars it would reveal many mistakes and doubtful long term wise decisions for the British.

However....the fact remains.....the Boers lost and given the time, dynamics and specifics of the war always were going to lose. The union of South Africa was established as a dominion of the British Empire in 1910.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Mar 2019 12.22pm)

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Mapletree Croydon 25 Mar 19 12.30pm
While I have some respect I think we can both agree that you wouldn't have written a motto like that. Interesting point You know a bit about my history. I was first into Vilnius after the wall came down, first into Krakow and first into Bucharest. In Bucharest the place was covered in holes from where Nicolae Ceausescu was shot. I was in Colombo during the times of the troubles and my hotel room was blown up a week after I left. So yes, you are right, I wouldn't dare.
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Mapletree

Croydon 25 Mar 19 12.30pm

While I have some respect I think we can both agree that you wouldn't have written a motto like that.

Interesting point

You know a bit about my history. I was first into Vilnius after the wall came down, first into Krakow and first into Bucharest. In Bucharest the place was covered in holes from where Nicolae Ceausescu was shot. I was in Colombo during the times of the troubles and my hotel room was blown up a week after I left.

So yes, you are right, I wouldn't dare.

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Stirlingsays 25 Mar 19 12.34pm
Originally posted by Mapletree While I have some respect I think we can both agree that you wouldn't have written a motto like that. Interesting point You know a bit about my history. I was first into Vilnius after the wall came down, first into Krakow and first into Bucharest. In Bucharest the place was covered in holes from where Nicolae Ceausescu was shot. I was in Colombo during the times of the troubles and my hotel room was blown up a week after I left. So yes, you are right, I wouldn't dare. Well, if all that is true then there can be no doubt as to your personal bravery. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

25 Mar 19 12.34pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

While I have some respect I think we can both agree that you wouldn't have written a motto like that.

Interesting point

So yes, you are right, I wouldn't dare.

Well, if all that is true then there can be no doubt as to your personal bravery.

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Mapletree Croydon 25 Mar 19 12.36pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Well, if all that is true then there can be no doubt as to your personal bravery. Of course it's true. Don't you be doing a ChrisGC on me. But there's a difference between taking on challenges and being foolhardy. Mostly the difference is preparedness
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Mapletree

Croydon 25 Mar 19 12.36pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well, if all that is true then there can be no doubt as to your personal bravery.

Of course it's true. Don't you be doing a ChrisGC on me.

But there's a difference between taking on challenges and being foolhardy. Mostly the difference is preparedness

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DANGERCLOSE London 25 Mar 19 12.42pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol No messages from Vladimir today? [Tweet Link]
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

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Stirlingsays 25 Mar 19 12.47pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Of course it's true. Don't you be doing a ChrisGC on me. But there's a difference between taking on challenges and being foolhardy. Mostly the difference is preparedness Sure there is, however I think you have talked yourself into believing the worst of outcomes. It's almost as though you have a personal fiscal stake in it. At the end of the day it comes down to worldviews for the long term direction of the west and how we view the future for Europe. I oppose the destruction of the nation state and oppose splitting the west into competing spheres. In my view, while America is still Anglo Saxon that is where we need to be.....not with European federalists who are economic neo liberals but culturally Marxist. Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Mar 2019 12.50pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

25 Mar 19 12.47pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Of course it's true. Don't you be doing a ChrisGC on me.

But there's a difference between taking on challenges and being foolhardy. Mostly the difference is preparedness

Sure there is, however I think you have talked yourself into believing the worst of outcomes. It's almost as though you have a personal fiscal stake in it.

At the end of the day it comes down to worldviews for the long term direction of the west and how we view the future for Europe. I oppose the destruction of the nation state and oppose splitting the west into competing spheres.

In my view, while America is still Anglo Saxon that is where we need to be.....not with European federalists who are economic neo liberals but culturally Marxist.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Mar 2019 12.50pm)

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Pussay Patrol 25 Mar 19 12.47pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle This is the crux and I am very interested to hear your views on this. 1 - how did being in the EU inconvenience you in your daily life? 2 - what benefits will you experience in your daily life once we leave the EU? What are we doing this for exactly? Mate, you're wasting your time if you expect a sensible answer It'll just be - we won you lost haha or some gobbledegook about how the EU are the enemy then throw in the war for good measure, usually but not always there is a xenophobic tone where immigration is the root of all evil. Willo is not extreme as other contributors so you never know Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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25 Mar 19 12.47pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

This is the crux and I am very interested to hear your views on this.

1 - how did being in the EU inconvenience you in your daily life?
2 - what benefits will you experience in your daily life once we leave the EU?

What are we doing this for exactly?

Mate, you're wasting your time if you expect a sensible answer

It'll just be - we won you lost haha or some gobbledegook about how the EU are the enemy then throw in the war for good measure, usually but not always there is a xenophobic tone where immigration is the root of all evil. Willo is not extreme as other contributors so you never know

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

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Mapletree Croydon 25 Mar 19 12.55pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Sure there is, however I think you have talked yourself into believing the worst of outcomes. It's almost as though you have a personal fiscal stake in it. At the end of the day it comes down to worldviews for the long term direction of the west and how we view the future for Europe. I oppose the destruction of the nation state and oppose splitting the west into competing spheres. In my view, while America is still Anglo Saxon that is where we need to be.....not with European federalists who are economic neo liberals but culturally Marxist. Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Mar 2019 12.50pm) Yes, I was paid by the EU to do the Central European work. My experience is that the USA is no more friendly to the UK than Europe, in fact much less friendly. Look for example at the way it controls our companies and fines the hell out of them. Talk about being a vassal state. A federation of roughly similar sized or smaller economies to ours or total dependence upon one big, unpredictable, selfish one.
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Mapletree

Croydon 25 Mar 19 12.55pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Sure there is, however I think you have talked yourself into believing the worst of outcomes. It's almost as though you have a personal fiscal stake in it.

In my view, while America is still Anglo Saxon that is where we need to be.....not with European federalists who are economic neo liberals but culturally Marxist.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Mar 2019 12.50pm)

Yes, I was paid by the EU to do the Central European work.

My experience is that the USA is no more friendly to the UK than Europe, in fact much less friendly. Look for example at the way it controls our companies and fines the hell out of them.

Talk about being a vassal state. A federation of roughly similar sized or smaller economies to ours or total dependence upon one big, unpredictable, selfish one.

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Hrolf The Ganger 25 Mar 19 12.59pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Mate, you're wasting your time if you expect a sensible answer It'll just be - we won you lost haha or some gobbledegook about how the EU are the enemy then throw in the war for good measure, usually but not always there is a xenophobic tone where immigration is the root of all evil. Willo is not extreme as other contributors so you never know It wasn't me who mentioned Germans. I mentioned the war but I think I got away with it. Talking of cliches. Your post was rather pot calling kettle. If you can't understand that some people don't want to be increasingly ruled by Brussels as it pushes on with its plan for total federalism, that is your problem. The fact that you have chosen to live on the mainland means that you have no solid interest in Britain's future anyhow. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (25 Mar 2019 12.59pm)
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Mate, you're wasting your time if you expect a sensible answer

It wasn't me who mentioned Germans.

I mentioned the war but I think I got away with it.

Talking of cliches. Your post was rather pot calling kettle.

If you can't understand that some people don't want to be increasingly ruled by Brussels as it pushes on with its plan for total federalism, that is your problem.
The fact that you have chosen to live on the mainland means that you have no solid interest in Britain's future anyhow.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (25 Mar 2019 12.59pm)

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