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ChrisGC  Wantage 24 Mar 19 5.13pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
You cannot vote to just “leave”. The whole thing was flawed from the beginning as certain types of Brexit are utterly and completely different to other types. If that last 3 years has taught you anything, it must have taught you that. There are 20 different ways of leaving. There is no consensus in parliament about HOW to leave the EU. Given that fact it must be the electorate who decide how, assuming they still want to. What utter nonsense. That's exactly what you do. You then follow the prescribed legal text to withdraw. It's no different to serving notice. The decision to enter into negotiation of an international treaty was the choice of a remain government. Hard or soft Brexit is a construct of remain. So is deal or no deal. It isn't a deal, it's a treaty. Edited by ChrisGC (24 Mar 2019 5.14pm)
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 Maine Eagle USA 24 Mar 19 5.15pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Well played on not addressing a single thing I said The simple fact is what I already said. There is no agreement on how to leave the EU. You can bleat on and on with Farage esque “leave means leave” rhetoric but it won’t change that core fact. How we leave the EU cannot be resolved by politicians therefore it must be voted on again by the people, because there is no way this government is signing off on a no deal brexit. _______________________________________________________ But that is the point of electing politicians. They can’t then throw up their hands and say “This is too hard. Have another vote so we don’t have to go through it”. They are not saying “this is too hard”. They are saying “we cannot agree”. It’s a bit different. In 3 years there is no consensus. Next week there will be no consensus. The week after, there will still be no consensus in parliament. Politicians are doing a mixture of what they think is best for them personally, and what they think is best for the country. That mechanism in the Houses of Parliament is not going to lead to an agreeable way forward.
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| ChrisGC Wantage 24 Mar 19 5.16pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
People know a lot more now than they did in 2016, which is what I said before in my first post. You may have noticed but parliament is unable to get us out of Europe. It has failed to agree how to do that. Perhaps you have noticed? In the absence of parliament agreeing how to do that, you have 2 other options. No deal or a people’s vote. People begging for no deal are the truly dumb ones. Begging to have less money and a worse economy, it’s comedy. People’s vote is the only way forward and canceling the whole sh*t show should be on the ballot aswell. I'll take the bait. What do you know now that you didn't in 2016?
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| Maine Eagle USA 24 Mar 19 5.18pm |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
What utter nonsense. That's exactly what you do. You then follow the prescribed legal text to withdraw. It's no different to serving notice. The decision to enter into negotiation of an international treaty was the choice of a remain government. Hard or soft Brexit is a construct of remain. So is deal or no deal. It isn't a deal, it's a treaty. Edited by ChrisGC (24 Mar 2019 5.14pm) What on earth are you going on about? Article 50 allows you to spend 2 years negotiating a withdrawal agreement. You are completely wrong. You should read about article 50 and how it works. Edited by Maine Eagle (24 Mar 2019 5.18pm)
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| Midlands Eagle 24 Mar 19 5.19pm |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
The winner of the Cheltenham Gold Cup
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| Maine Eagle USA 24 Mar 19 5.19pm |
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I already wrote it in a previous reply.
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| ChrisGC Wantage 24 Mar 19 5.22pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
What on earth are you going on about? Article 50 allows you to spend 2 years negotiating a withdrawal agreement. You are completely wrong. You should read about article 50 and how it works. Edited by Maine Eagle (24 Mar 2019 5.18pm) I absolutely am not and you've just shown your complete ignorance. There is no obligation to negotiate a single thing, nor pay a single bean. You serve notice. You follow the prescribed steps to leave. They have chosen to negotiate an international treaty which is completely separate to the process of leaving the EU, yet they present it as being a condition. Edited by ChrisGC (24 Mar 2019 5.22pm)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 24 Mar 19 5.22pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
What on earth are you going on about? Article 50 allows you to spend 2 years negotiating a withdrawal agreement. You are completely wrong. You should read about article 50 and how it works. Edited by Maine Eagle (24 Mar 2019 5.18pm) The idea that you would have any plan at all is completely ridiculous to any brexiteer. And parliament too who just waved it all through regardless. Result - a pathetic PM kept in a separate room while 27 other countries decide what to do about the UK.
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| ChrisGC Wantage 24 Mar 19 5.23pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
The winner of the Cheltenham Gold Cup Game.
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| ChrisGC Wantage 24 Mar 19 5.24pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
I already wrote it in a previous reply. Set...
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| Maine Eagle USA 24 Mar 19 5.26pm |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
I absolutely am not and you've just shown your complete ignorance. There is no obligation to negotiate a single thing, nor pay a single bean. You serve notice. You follow the prescribed steps to leave. They have chosen to negotiate an international treaty which is completely separate to the process of leaving the EU. Edited by ChrisGC (24 Mar 2019 5.22pm) There is something called a no deal brexit. Then there is the opposite which necessitates a withdrawal agreement or “deal”. What are the “prescribed steps to leave” exactly if you don’t have a withdrawal agreement then?
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| Mapletree Croydon 24 Mar 19 5.28pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Parliament decided to hold a referendum. That is history. The leaving process itself was the job of politicians, and they have made a total mess of it largely because half of them are trying to subvert the democratic process as promised before the referendum. Please stop
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