The context being that it was a(nother) 'gaffe' stated while talking about the 'Negro League' in baseball (as it was known at that time). That's not to say it's not a pretty rough mistake to make though, and of course dems would be making hay if a republican had said it.

The other notable difference is that racist comments on the other side would typically, due to their politics, be 'dog whistles'. Trumps intentionally messing up names of 'the squad' and telling them to 'go back' (to countries they're not even from anyway) for instance. The same is true of the opposite politics of course with ultra liberal types mocking 'white tears' and so on.

Untrue. You lie. The hypocrisy is all on the right. Apparently the guy in question played in the 1940s in the "Negro" league. One of the comments put it like this:-

"It's pretty obvious he was going to say "great negro league pitcher" and then stuttered. But have fun pretending otherwise! Great trolling material!"

Those on the extreme right are looking for any excuse to try to establish some kind of equivalence between Biden and Trump, to claim that he is as bad as him.

Biden can falter, but he is not an autocratic chancer, with no regard for democracy or the law, like Trump.

Seeking to establish any kind of equivalence is what is hypocritical.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Trump was right, in my view, as allegiance/genetics matters more than birthplace......To give the often made example, Kipling was born and raised in India yet no one seriously regards him as Indian, least of all himself.

Trump was hated by the left precisely because of this kind of thing....which is why Biden's gaffe is so delicious.

I suspect that they have him so drugged to the nines that the guy's system is overloaded.....They are reducing his life expectancy....In his mental state he should not be sitting at the top of the decision pyramid.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Nov 2021 11.16pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Apparently when it's from the left....suddenly context matters.

And it seems I'm a liar for stating what Biden actually said in place of someone saying what he thought he meant to say.

Clown world.

What Biden might have meant to say wasn't my point anyway. The point was on the pure double standards.

Oh and what's Trump got to do with it? In fact it just highlights the double standards even more.....imagine the hatred he'd get for saying that..... I won't include Bluejay in that observation....as I don't think him mentioning Trump was said with a deflection intention.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Nov 2021 11.27pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yes, more of an aside really.. based on seeing it on TV just now .

While obviously I regard ancestral claims to land as important I would largely agree with you. Allegiance is highly important.

But I think the nature of allegiance has changed dramatically over the last two generations. It's more tied to living standards and consumerism than before....which frankly has been the gift of technological development much more than any political successes....all they have doing for thirty years is print money.

National cohesion has reduced along both class and ethnic lines and I suppose being generation X I'm of that generation which has seen the 'before' and 'after' so to speak in living time.....As a child/teenager in the late seventies/early eighties it really was a different world to now.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Nov 2021 3.07am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)