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Stirlingsays 09 Oct 18 11.39am
Originally posted by 7mins If you have issues with Islam, TR isn't the person to get your info from. Try these... Ayaan Hirsi Ali Ibn Warraq Annie Laurie-Gaylor Sam Harris (can highly recommend his podcast) Or... stick with TR. I have Ali's book 'Heretic' and know quite a lot about her. I use to like Sam Harris and use to regularly listen to his podcast but while I respect his commentary on atheism and race realism he's too snobby, elitist and left wing for me to bother with now. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

09 Oct 18 11.39am

Originally posted by 7mins

If you have issues with Islam, TR isn't the person to get your info from.

Try these...

Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Ibn Warraq

Annie Laurie-Gaylor

Sam Harris (can highly recommend his podcast)

Or... stick with TR.

I have Ali's book 'Heretic' and know quite a lot about her.

I use to like Sam Harris and use to regularly listen to his podcast but while I respect his commentary on atheism and race realism he's too snobby, elitist and left wing for me to bother with now.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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dannyboy1978 09 Oct 18 11.42am
Originally posted by 7mins I think there's a massive problem with muslim nonces.... I criticise Islam all the time. TR is very good at sticking up for child abuse victims if the perps are brown. You choose to ignor my point!! he is upset with a particular group/comunity that have directly effected his life, what dont you understand? The Police ignored these communities and everyone shouted out about it, TR didnt ignore it and the left shout at him, you cant have it both ways.
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09 Oct 18 11.42am

Originally posted by 7mins

I think there's a massive problem with muslim nonces.... I criticise Islam all the time.
TR is very good at sticking up for child abuse victims if the perps are brown.

You choose to ignor my point!! he is upset with a particular group/comunity that have directly effected his life, what dont you understand?

The Police ignored these communities and everyone shouted out about it, TR didnt ignore it and the left shout at him, you cant have it both ways.

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7mins In the bush 09 Oct 18 11.51am
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 You choose to ignor my point!! he is upset with a particular group/comunity that have directly effected his life, what dont you understand? The Police ignored these communities and everyone shouted out about it, TR didnt ignore it and the left shout at him, you cant have it both ways. “Every single Muslim watching this…on 7/7 you got away with killing and maiming British citizens, you had better understand that we have built a network from one end of the country to the other end…and the Islamic community will feel the full force of the English Defence League if we see any of our British citizens killed, maimed, or hurt on British soil ever again.”
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In the bush 09 Oct 18 11.51am

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

You choose to ignor my point!! he is upset with a particular group/comunity that have directly effected his life, what dont you understand?

The Police ignored these communities and everyone shouted out about it, TR didnt ignore it and the left shout at him, you cant have it both ways.

“Every single Muslim watching this…on 7/7 you got away with killing and maiming British citizens, you had better understand that we have built a network from one end of the country to the other end…and the Islamic community will feel the full force of the English Defence League if we see any of our British citizens killed, maimed, or hurt on British soil ever again.”

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7mins In the bush 09 Oct 18 11.53am
TR is a racist. He was a member of the BNP. My dad is black, my mum is white... I don't have much time for far-right fascist organisations. I think TR should not be held up as the poster boy for criticism of Islam.
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In the bush 09 Oct 18 11.53am

TR is a racist.

He was a member of the BNP.

My dad is black, my mum is white... I don't have much time for far-right fascist organisations.

I think TR should not be held up as the poster boy for criticism of Islam.

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Stirlingsays 09 Oct 18 11.53am
Originally posted by 7mins While the catholic church deserves all the punishment that they have received for child abuses and no doubt the increased damage to their reputation that is yet to come from further revelations there is a fundamental difference between them and Islam. There I rewrote it. They aren't increasing in population percentage and pushing for representation with a culture that's significantly different to English culture. That's democracy... I like democracy. Islam is a significant threat to secular anglo saxon culture in the country and I stand firmly behind anyone peacefully pushing back against this. I to like peaceful, intelligent, fact based criticisms of Islam, that's why I don't like TR... that and he is liar, thug and a grade A moron None of those activists you mentioned in your previous post is making any headway in the UK or indeed even globally. That said I have significant respect for all Islamic reformers....many of which risk their lives to speak the truth. Robinson is far from perfect but....I have to be honest. There has been no one else willing to confront and criticise these activists and extremists in the UK. No one standing out there and raising the reality that anything other than secular Islam isn't compatible with western values. Look at what happened to Sarah Champion for even saying the truth about these gangs...She lost her job and gets called a racist. All the mainstream options know they will be attacked by the country's institutions. They all know to keep their head down. Robinson is gaining increasing working class support in the Uk and around the world and until someone like Douglas Murray comes down from his ivory tower...he's the only show in town. You joining in on the attack on him seems to me little better than what the far left want in this country on the Islamic question. No opposition. Because I ask you....where else is it coming from.....Because as much as I respect reformers here....they aren't pulling over ten thousand in crowds like Robinson did recently. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Oct 2018 11.54am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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09 Oct 18 11.53am

Originally posted by 7mins

While the catholic church deserves all the punishment that they have received for child abuses and no doubt the increased damage to their reputation that is yet to come from further revelations there is a fundamental difference between them and Islam.

There I rewrote it.

They aren't increasing in population percentage and pushing for representation with a culture that's significantly different to English culture.

That's democracy... I like democracy.

Islam is a significant threat to secular anglo saxon culture in the country and I stand firmly behind anyone peacefully pushing back against this.
I to like peaceful, intelligent, fact based criticisms of Islam, that's why I don't like TR... that and he is liar, thug and a grade A moron

None of those activists you mentioned in your previous post is making any headway in the UK or indeed even globally.

That said I have significant respect for all Islamic reformers....many of which risk their lives to speak the truth.

Robinson is far from perfect but....I have to be honest. There has been no one else willing to confront and criticise these activists and extremists in the UK. No one standing out there and raising the reality that anything other than secular Islam isn't compatible with western values. Look at what happened to Sarah Champion for even saying the truth about these gangs...She lost her job and gets called a racist.

All the mainstream options know they will be attacked by the country's institutions. They all know to keep their head down.

Robinson is gaining increasing working class support in the Uk and around the world and until someone like Douglas Murray comes down from his ivory tower...he's the only show in town.

You joining in on the attack on him seems to me little better than what the far left want in this country on the Islamic question.

No opposition.

Because I ask you....where else is it coming from.....Because as much as I respect reformers here....they aren't pulling over ten thousand in crowds like Robinson did recently.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Oct 2018 11.54am)

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dannyboy1978 09 Oct 18 11.57am
Originally posted by 7mins “Every single Muslim watching this…on 7/7 you got away with killing and maiming British citizens, you had better understand that we have built a network from one end of the country to the other end…and the Islamic community will feel the full force of the English Defence League if we see any of our British citizens killed, maimed, or hurt on British soil ever again.” you choose to ignor my point again, muslim rape gangs have directly effected his life , catholics havent.
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09 Oct 18 11.57am

Originally posted by 7mins

you choose to ignor my point again, muslim rape gangs have directly effected his life , catholics havent.

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Stirlingsays 09 Oct 18 12.01pm
Originally posted by 7mins TR is a racist. He was a member of the BNP. My dad is black, my mum is white... I don't have much time for far-right fascist organisations. I think TR should not be held up as the poster boy for criticism of Islam. Your skin colour should be an irrelevance. He was a briefly a member of the BNP and I don't agree with that....but he left within a year. People like you obviously will permanently hold that against him. I think you should move on and judge him on what he actually says. Robinson isn't fascist and you are a liar to suggest as such. As for racist, he has non white friends so again I think that's a lie.....excepting your lefty 'definitions' of racism of course.....everyone's practically a racist to them. Like I said, while Robinson is far from perfect you are in effect opposing him and in reality opposing the only opposition to radical Islam in the country. There is about as much point to that as there is to a chocolate teapot. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Oct 2018 12.05pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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09 Oct 18 12.01pm

Originally posted by 7mins

TR is a racist.

He was a member of the BNP.

My dad is black, my mum is white... I don't have much time for far-right fascist organisations.

I think TR should not be held up as the poster boy for criticism of Islam.

Your skin colour should be an irrelevance.

He was a briefly a member of the BNP and I don't agree with that....but he left within a year. People like you obviously will permanently hold that against him. I think you should move on and judge him on what he actually says.

Robinson isn't fascist and you are a liar to suggest as such. As for racist, he has non white friends so again I think that's a lie.....excepting your lefty 'definitions' of racism of course.....everyone's practically a racist to them.

Like I said, while Robinson is far from perfect you are in effect opposing him and in reality opposing the only opposition to radical Islam in the country.

There is about as much point to that as there is to a chocolate teapot.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Oct 2018 12.05pm)

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7mins In the bush 09 Oct 18 12.04pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays None of those activists you mentioned in your previous post is making any headway in the UK or indeed even globally. That said I have significant respect for all Islamic reformers....many of which risk their lives to speak the truth. Robinson is far from perfect but....I have to be honest. There has been no one else willing to confront and criticise these activists and extremists in the UK. No one standing out there and raising the reality that anything other than secular Islam isn't compatible with western values. Look at what happened to Sarah Champion for even saying the truth about these gangs...She lost her job and gets called a racist. All the mainstream options know they will be attacked by the country's institutions. They all know to keep their head down. Robinson is gaining increasing working class support in the Uk and around the world and until someone like Douglas Murray comes down from his ivory tower...he's the only show in town. You joining in on the attack on him seems to me little better than what the far left want in this country on the Islamic question. No opposition. Because I ask you....where else is it coming from.....Because as much as I respect reformers here....they aren't pulling over ten thousand in crowds like Robinson did recently. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Oct 2018 11.54am) TR supporters won't change a thing. TR is a thick racist. The reason smart(er) people aren't drawing crowds of thousands, is because the problem isn't as bad as you say... if it did get that bad... I'm sure smarter people would mobilise. If the problem was as bad as you say, the far right parties would get a bigger share of the vote... they don't... because the problem isn't as big as you say. Islam is a silly out-dated religion... it doesn't treat people equally and restricts free thinking.... a few muslims in certain areas are nonces... that's f*ing s*ty... as is the muslims that defend them. That doesn't mean every muzzie is nonce/terrorist... I play 5aside with a Muslim fella.... is he a nonce/potential terrorist... because TR thinks so... remember his speech was addressed to "every muslim"
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In the bush 09 Oct 18 12.04pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

None of those activists you mentioned in your previous post is making any headway in the UK or indeed even globally.

That said I have significant respect for all Islamic reformers....many of which risk their lives to speak the truth.

All the mainstream options know they will be attacked by the country's institutions. They all know to keep their head down.

Robinson is gaining increasing working class support in the Uk and around the world and until someone like Douglas Murray comes down from his ivory tower...he's the only show in town.

You joining in on the attack on him seems to me little better than what the far left want in this country on the Islamic question.

No opposition.

Because I ask you....where else is it coming from.....Because as much as I respect reformers here....they aren't pulling over ten thousand in crowds like Robinson did recently.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Oct 2018 11.54am)

TR supporters won't change a thing. TR is a thick racist. The reason smart(er) people aren't drawing crowds of thousands, is because the problem isn't as bad as you say... if it did get that bad... I'm sure smarter people would mobilise.

If the problem was as bad as you say, the far right parties would get a bigger share of the vote... they don't... because the problem isn't as big as you say.

Islam is a silly out-dated religion... it doesn't treat people equally and restricts free thinking.... a few muslims in certain areas are nonces... that's f***ing s***ty... as is the muslims that defend them.

That doesn't mean every muzzie is nonce/terrorist... I play 5aside with a Muslim fella.... is he a nonce/potential terrorist... because TR thinks so... remember his speech was addressed to "every muslim"

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Stirlingsays 09 Oct 18 12.11pm
Originally posted by 7mins TR supporters won't change a thing. TR is a thick racist. The reason smart(er) people aren't drawing crowds of thousands, is because the problem isn't as bad as you say... if it did get that bad... I'm sure smarter people would mobilise. If the problem was as bad as you say, the far right parties would get a bigger share of the vote... they don't... because the problem isn't as big as you say. Islam is a silly out-dated religion... it doesn't treat people equally and restricts free thinking.... a few muslims in certain areas are nonces... that's f*ing s*ty... as is the muslims that defend them. That doesn't mean every muzzie is nonce/terrorist... I play 5aside with a Muslim fella.... is he a nonce/potential terrorist... because TR thinks so... remember his speech was addressed to "every muslim" Robinson has apologised for the 'every Muslim' comment. When the bodies of people litter the ground as in 7/7 people say emotional and sometimes foolish things. You are wrong about ignoring the demographic problems from Islam in this country. Their population has more than doubled in less than twenty years and is now at around eight percent...we have around twenty thousand Muslims on security watch lists...this is only going to increase as their population increases...half of our Muslims here would sack gay teachers and twenty percent want Sharia...the integration into western values is similar to the problems in all other western countries. You are in denial about it obviously.....yet your grandchildren won't be. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

09 Oct 18 12.11pm

Originally posted by 7mins

If the problem was as bad as you say, the far right parties would get a bigger share of the vote... they don't... because the problem isn't as big as you say.

Robinson has apologised for the 'every Muslim' comment. When the bodies of people litter the ground as in 7/7 people say emotional and sometimes foolish things.

You are wrong about ignoring the demographic problems from Islam in this country. Their population has more than doubled in less than twenty years and is now at around eight percent...we have around twenty thousand Muslims on security watch lists...this is only going to increase as their population increases...half of our Muslims here would sack gay teachers and twenty percent want Sharia...the integration into western values is similar to the problems in all other western countries.

You are in denial about it obviously.....yet your grandchildren won't be.

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7mins In the bush 09 Oct 18 12.12pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You skin colour should be an irrelevance. He was a briefly a member of the BNP and I don't agree with that....but he left within a year. People like you obviously will permanently hold that against him. I think you should move on and judge him on what he actually says. Robinson isn't fascist and you are a liar to suggest as such. As for racist, he has non white friends so again I think that's a lie.....excepting your lefty 'definitions' of racism of course.....everyone's practically a racist to them. Like I said, while Robinson is far from perfect you are in effect opposing him and in reality opposing the only opposition to radical Islam in the country. There is about as much point to that as there is to a chocolate teapot. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Oct 2018 12.03pm) I mention my skin colour in the context of personal experiences with far-right organisations like the BNP. You say TR isn't a fascist...yet... he joined a fascist organisation. Me branding TR a fascist does not make me a liar... I could be incorrect (I'm not)... but it doesn't make me a liar... the reason it doesn't make me liar... is because it's a subjective point of view... I base my assumption that TR is a fascist on the available evidence... TR has been a member of two fascist organisations... therefore.. It is my belief, TR is a fascist.
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In the bush 09 Oct 18 12.12pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You skin colour should be an irrelevance.

Like I said, while Robinson is far from perfect you are in effect opposing him and in reality opposing the only opposition to radical Islam in the country.

There is about as much point to that as there is to a chocolate teapot.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Oct 2018 12.03pm)

I mention my skin colour in the context of personal experiences with far-right organisations like the BNP.
You say TR isn't a fascist...yet... he joined a fascist organisation.
Me branding TR a fascist does not make me a liar... I could be incorrect (I'm not)... but it doesn't make me a liar... the reason it doesn't make me liar... is because it's a subjective point of view... I base my assumption that TR is a fascist on the available evidence... TR has been a member of two fascist organisations... therefore.. It is my belief, TR is a fascist.

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7mins In the bush 09 Oct 18 12.16pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Robinson has apologised for the 'every Muslim' comment. When the bodies of people litter the ground as in 7/7 people say emotional and sometimes foolish things. You are wrong about ignoring the demographic problems from Islam in this country. Their population has more than doubled in less than twenty years and is now at around eight percent...we have around twenty thousand Muslims on security watch lists...this is only going to increase as their population increases...half of our Muslims here would sack gay teachers and twenty percent want Sharia...the integration into western values is similar to the problems in all other western countries. You are in denial about it obviously.....yet your grandchildren won't be. Don't have kids bro. You seem to be misunderstanding my point... TR is a thick fascist. Muslims that want gay teachers sacked... are thick bigots. Muslims that want Sharia are thick fascists
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In the bush 09 Oct 18 12.16pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Robinson has apologised for the 'every Muslim' comment. When the bodies of people litter the ground as in 7/7 people say emotional and sometimes foolish things.

You are in denial about it obviously.....yet your grandchildren won't be.

Don't have kids bro.

You seem to be misunderstanding my point... TR is a thick fascist.

Muslims that want gay teachers sacked... are thick bigots.

Muslims that want Sharia are thick fascists

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