I don't think you understand what it's like to live somewhere where kids are ready to stab each other over their respective post codes.

This is just stupid now. Basically if he had said “who is allah” and stood watching nothing would have happened; or would it? It isn’t right what is happening now and come the opening of parliament this whole s*** show will have to be pulled up. Next year the local elections will decimate labour one hopes. Many labour voters will be on the end of these new ‘laws’. Guaranteed before then though there will be a dosh giveaway to the feckless workshy and labours voting base. Christ I’ve even noticed it on this simple message board how reserved it now is as as the local plod are probably scouring every place they can for targets. Very scary times indeed.

Never voted labour, never will vote labour and I give them no credence but:
When 2TK stood up and ranted about punishment for the protesters who overstepped and for online punishments, he himself wasn’t expecting the harshness of the sentences. I mean he’s a lawyer himself and no where in history are there any precedents for some of the bird given for certain reasons.
What has happened is he’s instructed police to put the case and a set of judges to hand down the sentences. A bit like having a cat who keeps catching birds and rodents and bringing them home as a present. No matter how much you tell them to stop they keep doing it to please you.
Behind closed doors I would imagine a swathe of even his own MPs are concerned about the perception of labour and moreover the very people and families affected by the court results. Let alone the fear that has been driven into the public they are meant to serve, not control!
The first conviction and sentence set in motion an unstoppable wrong and I would not be surprised to see all sentences appealed and HMG and the establishment proved to have been over zealous. It only takes 1 or 2 to win appeals for the whole house of cards to come crashing down. There must be something in the offing as no one has asked for trial by jury which, and I stand to be corrected is a right still available in our system. Not sure about criteria but that in itself is strange.
2TK basically picked his words very badly and his instruction to the legal profession might well have been misinterpreted and that’s why we see what’s happening.
I just do not see any benefit to his or their standing and like climate change and the is it racist argument cancellation and jail sits greedily at the trap door for anyone to openly criticise what’s happening.

You can make up as much 'detail' as you like. I don't believe you. It's just you virtue-signalling.

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Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

This thread has hardly touched on the actual atrocity, shown little respect for the victims and their families, and just been a platform for the usual compulsive posters to bang their gongs and clang their cymbals.