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 Stirlingsays  20 Mar 19 9.54pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Blame was 34% the government and 24% MP's. Polls not my thing but 90% saying that is different. Mmmm....suddenly you care about polls....how about the reality that 'no deal' is the most popular option with the public.
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Pussay Patrol  20 Mar 19 9.59pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Struggling to understand what the issue is. This 'deal' simply cannot be allowed to pass for a variety of reasons, not least this dreadful backstop which is an effective EU jackboot on our throats for ever. We are legally due to leave on March 29th and if the EU will not grant an extension, then that is it. Done and dusted. As far as I am concerned, it matters not a jot that MP's voted against leaving without a deal. That was never part of the A50 process. It's called democracy which you're usually ever so keen to harp on about
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| Matov 20 Mar 19 10.01pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Mmmm....suddenly you care about polls....how about the reality that 'no deal' is the most popular option with the public.
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| Mapletree Croydon 20 Mar 19 10.04pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I don't imagine that American food standards for chicken are any worse than ours which are pretty poor and driven by the public's demand for cheap chicken at any price. Interesting article here [Link] You don’t imagine But I have researched. I set up The Meat Hygiene Service. And did you actually read your linked article? Edited by Mapletree (20 Mar 2019 10.11pm)
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| Matov 20 Mar 19 10.06pm |
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Have had to conclude that May is utterly insane. A emergency public statement that appears to blame everybody apart from her. And once again, saying that we are not leaving on March 29th. When patently, and in law, we are. She needs removing from office. Lets have another election rather than this insanity.
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| Mapletree Croydon 20 Mar 19 10.08pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Mmmm....suddenly you care about polls....how about the reality that 'no deal' is the most popular option with the public. I think remain is
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 20 Mar 19 10.13pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You don’t imagine But I have researched And did you actually read your linked article? Edited by Mapletree (20 Mar 2019 10.07pm) This country is so full of animal right litigious nut jobs that If the meat treated with chlorine was bad for you the courts would be clogged with law suits which they patently not.
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| Matov 20 Mar 19 10.24pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
This country is so full of animal right litigious nut jobs that If the meat treated with chlorine was bad for you the courts would be clogged with law suits which they patently not. My understanding is that it is not that meat is chlorinated but rather it is such an effective method of killing off any potential nasties, that lower animal welfare standards can be allowed. Why bother spending so much money on ensuring that meat is fit for consumption at the point of slaughter when you can render it safer at a later stage?
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| Mapletree Croydon 20 Mar 19 10.27pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
My understanding is that it is not that meat is chlorinated but rather it is such an effective method of killing off any potential nasties, that lower animal welfare standards can be allowed. Why bother spending so much money on ensuring that meat is fit for consumption at the point of slaughter when you can render it safer at a later stage? Read Midlands link and specifically the part about salmonella Plus the soppy yoof kind of care about social responsibility and welfare nowadays.
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| Matov 20 Mar 19 10.44pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Read Midlands link and specifically the part about salmonella Plus the soppy yoof kind of care about social responsibility and welfare nowadays. I don't particularly care about the ins and outs to be honest. As others have said, given how litigious the US is, then any genuine health risks would have already been fully exposed and millions paid out. The actual issue here is political. One of the primary drivers, and one I do have some sympathy with, behind this backstop lunacy is because the EU is, quite rightly, looking to prevent the UK from being able to import tariff free beef which will damage the Irish economy in particular. Scare stories about chlorinated Chicken are part of this. The EU's job is to keep the UK locked into its protectionist policies. We leave, and food prices tumble, which I am absolutely confident they will do within 12 months, and the EU is faced with a huge crisis as others see that happening and demand to know why they are still paying over the top prices. Now I don't blame the EU for attempting to do that. What I struggle with is why our establishment is so wedded to the idea that it is fine for the British consumer to be over-charged for the food they eat.
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| Matov 20 Mar 19 10.48pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
It's called democracy which you're usually ever so keen to harp on about They voted for A50. Which is enshrined in our law with a depature date of March 29th. Done and dusted. There is nothing is law that predecates that with a deal agreed.
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| Mapletree Croydon 20 Mar 19 10.49pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
I don't particularly care about the ins and outs to be honest. As others have said, given how litigious the US is, then any genuine health risks would have already been fully exposed and millions paid out. The actual issue here is political. One of the primary drivers, and one I do have some sympathy with, behind this backstop lunacy is because the EU is, quite rightly, looking to prevent the UK from being able to import tariff free beef which will damage the Irish economy in particular. Scare stories about chlorinated Chicken are part of this. The EU's job is to keep the UK locked into its protectionist policies. We leave, and food prices tumble, which I am absolutely confident they will do within 12 months, and the EU is faced with a huge crisis as others see that happening and demand to know why they are still paying over the top prices. Now I don't blame the EU for attempting to do that. What I struggle with is why our establishment is so wedded to the idea that it is fine for the British consumer to be over-charged for the food they eat. Our food is better quality than anywhere else in the world. I for one do not want to see a race to the bottom. Presumably you feel the same way about fireworks and building materials. Why do we need regulation, the market will manage it Simple naivety.
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