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Rudi Hedman Caterham 10 Dec 19 12.42pm
In A&E in East Surrey in February and I bet over half the people didnt need to be in there. A good few of them didn’t or couldn’t speak English, over the usual amount of supporting relatives there for what looked like people with not much distress. Accident and Emergency now means A bit concerned’ or ‘Appointment times at GP’s don’t fit with our schedule’. 1 hour wait between seeing each person of several and I was out of there. No complaints but I didn’t see much pain or distress in there. Edited by Rudi Hedman (10 Dec 2019 12.44pm) COYP
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Caterham 10 Dec 19 12.42pm

In A&E in East Surrey in February and I bet over half the people didnt need to be in there. A good few of them didn’t or couldn’t speak English, over the usual amount of supporting relatives there for what looked like people with not much distress. Accident and Emergency now means A bit concerned’ or ‘Appointment times at GP’s don’t fit with our schedule’.

1 hour wait between seeing each person of several and I was out of there. No complaints but I didn’t see much pain or distress in there.

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Stirlingsays 10 Dec 19 12.48pm
Originally posted by berlinpalace Another busy day spreading lies and disinformation SS, the Party will be very pleased with you there might be a medal in it. Actually, Berlin has traditionally been rather left wing, that’s why Hitler hated it and joked about the allied bombing. You probably wouldn’t like it either. I guess the socialist part of the 'National Socialist Party' kind of just passed you by then. Hitler implemented left wing policies at the time like pensions, national childcare, national healthcare and high tax on the wealthy....but the services were just for Germans. Socialists and nationalists weren't mutually exclusive back then. Indeed, anyone who knows anything about nationalism knows that it branches into right and left versions. But the left of course think everyone's a Nazi because that's convenient for them.....it's ignorance from many but a form of dishonesty from those with a brain. Hitler's horrific crimes make it easy to do and he had to be defeated. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2019 1.08pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Dec 19 12.48pm

Originally posted by berlinpalace

Another busy day spreading lies and disinformation SS, the Party will be very pleased with you there might be a medal in it.
Actually, Berlin has traditionally been rather left wing, that’s why Hitler hated it and joked about the allied bombing. You probably wouldn’t like it either.

I guess the socialist part of the 'National Socialist Party' kind of just passed you by then.

Hitler implemented left wing policies at the time like pensions, national childcare, national healthcare and high tax on the wealthy....but the services were just for Germans.

Socialists and nationalists weren't mutually exclusive back then.

Indeed, anyone who knows anything about nationalism knows that it branches into right and left versions. But the left of course think everyone's a Nazi because that's convenient for them.....it's ignorance from many but a form of dishonesty from those with a brain.

Hitler's horrific crimes make it easy to do and he had to be defeated.

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Stirlingsays 10 Dec 19 12.57pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow The hospital itself, the Chief Medical Officer and the Chief Executive have all confirmed the story to be true. The story is that the child had to be treated on the floor. That is untrue, it was a staged and politicised action. The child was deliberately placed on the floor for the photo. Where is the nurse who has stated she had to use the floor for treatment? 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Dec 19 12.57pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

The hospital itself, the Chief Medical Officer and the Chief Executive have all confirmed the story to be true.

The story is that the child had to be treated on the floor.

That is untrue, it was a staged and politicised action.

The child was deliberately placed on the floor for the photo. Where is the nurse who has stated she had to use the floor for treatment?

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berlinpalace berlin 10 Dec 19 1.06pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I guess the socialist part of the 'National Socialist Party' kind of just passed you by then. Hitler implemented left wing policies at the time like pensions, national childcare, national healthcare and high tax on the wealthy. Socialists and nationalists weren't mutually exclusive back then. A ‘socialism’ on purely racial grounds, the nationalism was the important part and the socialist bit was tacked on to try and appeal to sections of the workers. There’s always a significant proportion who fall for that bulls***. ‘To increase its appeal to larger segments of the population, on the same day as Hitler's Hofbräuhaus speech on 24 February 1920, the DAP changed its name to the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei ("National Socialist German Workers' Party", or Nazi Party).[51][52] The word "Socialist" was added by the party's executive committee, over Hitler's objections, in order to help appeal to left-wing workers.[53]’
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berlin 10 Dec 19 1.06pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I guess the socialist part of the 'National Socialist Party' kind of just passed you by then.

Hitler implemented left wing policies at the time like pensions, national childcare, national healthcare and high tax on the wealthy.

Socialists and nationalists weren't mutually exclusive back then.

A ‘socialism’ on purely racial grounds, the nationalism was the important part and the socialist bit was tacked on to try and appeal to sections of the workers. There’s always a significant proportion who fall for that bulls***.
‘To increase its appeal to larger segments of the population, on the same day as Hitler's Hofbräuhaus speech on 24 February 1920, the DAP changed its name to the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei ("National Socialist German Workers' Party", or Nazi Party).[51][52] The word "Socialist" was added by the party's executive committee, over Hitler's objections, in order to help appeal to left-wing workers.[53]’

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 10 Dec 19 1.13pm
Originally posted by berlinpalace A ‘socialism’ on purely racial grounds, the nationalism was the important part and the socialist bit was tacked on to try and appeal to sections of the workers. There’s always a significant proportion who fall for that bulls*. ‘To increase its appeal to larger segments of the population, on the same day as Hitler's Hofbräuhaus speech on 24 February 1920, the DAP changed its name to the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei ("National Socialist German Workers' Party", or Nazi Party).[51][52] The word "Socialist" was added by the party's executive committee, over Hitler's objections, in order to help appeal to left-wing workers.[53]’ So Hitler was never hated the rich and bourgeoisie in ‘30s Germany then? COYP**
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Caterham 10 Dec 19 1.13pm

Originally posted by berlinpalace

So Hitler was never hated the rich and bourgeoisie in ‘30s Germany then?

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 10 Dec 19 1.13pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays The story is that the child had to be treated on the floor. That is untrue, it was a staged and politicised action. The child was deliberately placed on the floor for the photo. Where is the nurse who has stated she had to use the floor for treatment? No, the story is that they didn’t have a bed for him. How do you you know the child was placed on the floor for the photo? Did a social media bot tell you that one as well?
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The story is that the child had to be treated on the floor.

That is untrue, it was a staged and politicised action.

The child was deliberately placed on the floor for the photo. Where is the nurse who has stated she had to use the floor for treatment?

No, the story is that they didn’t have a bed for him.

How do you you know the child was placed on the floor for the photo? Did a social media bot tell you that one as well?

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Stirlingsays 10 Dec 19 1.14pm
Originally posted by berlinpalace A ‘socialism’ on purely racial grounds, the nationalism was the important part and the socialist bit was tacked on to try and appeal to sections of the workers. There’s always a significant proportion who fall for that bulls***. ‘To increase its appeal to larger segments of the population, on the same day as Hitler's Hofbräuhaus speech on 24 February 1920, the DAP changed its name to the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei ("National Socialist German Workers' Party", or Nazi Party).[51][52] The word "Socialist" was added by the party's executive committee, over Hitler's objections, in order to help appeal to left-wing workers.[53]’ This is the intellectually dishonest part. There is no evidence that these policies weren't believed in and I repeat. These are policies that were implemented, not just talked about to gain power. I find it hard to believe that Hitler didn't agree with higher services for Germans. Indeed, the meanings given to socialist and nationalist were different back then and people like yourself can't accept that. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2019 1.15pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Dec 19 1.14pm

Originally posted by berlinpalace

This is the intellectually dishonest part.

There is no evidence that these policies weren't believed in and I repeat. These are policies that were implemented, not just talked about to gain power. I find it hard to believe that Hitler didn't agree with higher services for Germans.

Indeed, the meanings given to socialist and nationalist were different back then and people like yourself can't accept that.

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Painter Croydon 10 Dec 19 1.15pm
The evening news will be slightly more pallet able tonight. As a distraction from all the promises of giveaways that will never happen, Ms Swinson is resorting to wearing low plunging neckline to show off her considerable appendage.
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Croydon 10 Dec 19 1.15pm

The evening news will be slightly more pallet able tonight. As a distraction from all the promises of giveaways that will never happen, Ms Swinson is resorting to wearing low plunging neckline to show off her considerable appendage.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 10 Dec 19 1.16pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow No, the story is that they didn’t have a bed for him. How do you you know the child was placed on the floor for the photo? Did a social media bot tell you that one as well? One child on the floor. What about the others? There must’ve been others, no? COYP
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Caterham 10 Dec 19 1.16pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

No, the story is that they didn’t have a bed for him.

How do you you know the child was placed on the floor for the photo? Did a social media bot tell you that one as well?

One child on the floor. What about the others? There must’ve been others, no?

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Badger11 Beckenham 10 Dec 19 1.21pm
I see Labour's Jonathon Ashworth is using the Justin Fashanu* defence to explain his criticism of the "Dear Leader". ""Mr Ashworth says he was trying to "lull" his friend who was a Conservative activist "into a false sense of security" ahead of polling day. "" * Fashanu was caught in a newspaper sting relating to match fixing he successfully defended himself in court and was cleared of all charges and is completely innocent. His defence was that he agree to dicuss match fixing with the undercover journalists as he wanted to see who was involved and how far it went before he reported them to the authorities. One more point
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Beckenham 10 Dec 19 1.21pm

I see Labour's Jonathon Ashworth is using the Justin Fashanu* defence to explain his criticism of the "Dear Leader".

""Mr Ashworth says he was trying to "lull" his friend who was a Conservative activist "into a false sense of security" ahead of polling day. ""

* Fashanu was caught in a newspaper sting relating to match fixing he successfully defended himself in court and was cleared of all charges and is completely innocent. His defence was that he agree to dicuss match fixing with the undercover journalists as he wanted to see who was involved and how far it went before he reported them to the authorities.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 10 Dec 19 1.23pm
Had to laugh at the end of another pointless debate on BBC1 last night. After an hour of interrupting everyone, the annoying Labour mp. Angela Rayner took her opportunity on Farage. Someone accused Farage of using immigration for the reason he was late to a Brexit party conference via the M4. He quite rightly replied about how many millions of more people while Angela Rayner just kept scowling from a foot away into his face of how disgusting he is. Farage just kept quoting the numbers and holding his hands up and asking her if she’d acknowledge it with a few ‘There we are’ quotes. The whole thing can’t end soon enough. Get on with what is voted for, stop interrupting and blocking it all so we can move on and focus on British citizens and not allowing the whole world to vote on what’s best for Britain. COYP
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Caterham 10 Dec 19 1.23pm

Had to laugh at the end of another pointless debate on BBC1 last night. After an hour of interrupting everyone, the annoying Labour mp. Angela Rayner took her opportunity on Farage. Someone accused Farage of using immigration for the reason he was late to a Brexit party conference via the M4. He quite rightly replied about how many millions of more people while Angela Rayner just kept scowling from a foot away into his face of how disgusting he is. Farage just kept quoting the numbers and holding his hands up and asking her if she’d acknowledge it with a few ‘There we are’ quotes.

The whole thing can’t end soon enough. Get on with what is voted for, stop interrupting and blocking it all so we can move on and focus on British citizens and not allowing the whole world to vote on what’s best for Britain.

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Stirlingsays 10 Dec 19 1.23pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow No, the story is that they didn’t have a bed for him. How do you you know the child was placed on the floor for the photo? Did a social media bot tell you that one as well? Mmmm....that's a bit paranoid Dan. They had a chair and there were beds available in the hospital. I'm hearing that this child went home the same day. Political capital being made off of a photo three days before an election.....Not buying it. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2019 1.24pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Dec 19 1.23pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

No, the story is that they didn’t have a bed for him.

How do you you know the child was placed on the floor for the photo? Did a social media bot tell you that one as well?

Mmmm....that's a bit paranoid Dan.

They had a chair and there were beds available in the hospital. I'm hearing that this child went home the same day.

Political capital being made off of a photo three days before an election.....Not buying it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2019 1.24pm)

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