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silvertop Flag Portishead 11 Jul 24 1.30pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Just that there is a £4 billion prison expansion programme in place.

So we need an interim solution. Ensure prisoner numbers are set against prisoner spaces. Open more prisons, numbers can rise.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Jul 24 1.35pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I get the sentiment but that's not a solution to the problem in the short-term.

My broader point is that this is clearly an inherited problem, which needs an immediate solution - if we're going to criticise a brand-new government for it, we need to at least know what we are suggesting they should be doing...


Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (11 Jul 2024 1.12pm)

I hear they have a couple hundred extra spaces in Rwanda.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 11 Jul 24 1.51pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Milliband has halted all new oil drilling in the North Sea and coal mining.
I knew it was coming through my own sources.

A green policy?
We will now have to rely on more imports.

Can anyone make a good argument for this?

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Jul 24 1.58pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Where did you see that?

The BBC link says exemptions for sexual and seriously violent offenders, certainly hope rapists are included in that.

It's all over the place. However, when I investigated further, in all fairness to Labour, around half have already been released under the Tories. Mostly very quietly - although a couple couldn't resist reoffending soon after. So I can hardly blame Labour - although it is my belief that Starmer was complicit in ignoring the issue.

 


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YT Flag Oxford 11 Jul 24 4.57pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Are they claiming credit? Is any credit due? Was any upturn just the nation's passive reaction to international factors beyond the government's control?

Even if they are, since time immemorial governments have claimed credit for work done by previous governments. I don't recall you complaining when say Trump did just that.

Is who claiming credit? Where did I say anyone was claiming credit? Starmer and Reeves say at every opportunity that they are aiming to grow the economy, so if it does indeed grow and they then claim credit for it, presumably you will then be quick to point out that actually the achievement of growth is out of their hands will you?

And I don't give a s*** about the USA or Donald Trump so why on Earth would I complain on HOL about anything whatsoever that happened there or that he did or didn't do? Not everyone is as obsessed by Donald Trump as you clearly are.

Edited by YT (11 Jul 2024 4.58pm)

 


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YT Flag Oxford 11 Jul 24 5.00pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Milliband has halted all new oil drilling in the North Sea and coal mining.
I knew it was coming through my own sources.

A green policy?
We will now have to rely on more imports.

Can anyone make a good argument for this?

I can't. It's madness. Mr Putin must be pissing himself.

 


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Matov Flag 11 Jul 24 5.41pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Milliband has halted all new oil drilling in the North Sea and coal mining.
I knew it was coming through my own sources.

A green policy?
We will now have to rely on more imports.

Can anyone make a good argument for this?


Only a minor correction.

We will now have to rely on more imports from countries with lower environmental standards than our own.

This policy actually ADDS to the problem (if you believe one exists in the first place).

 


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silvertop Flag Portishead 11 Jul 24 7.02pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

It's all over the place. However, when I investigated further, in all fairness to Labour, around half have already been released under the Tories. Mostly very quietly - although a couple couldn't resist reoffending soon after. So I can hardly blame Labour - although it is my belief that Starmer was complicit in ignoring the issue.

Was it his brief? Don't recall him being Home Sec.

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Jul 24 7.35pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Was it his brief? Don't recall him being Home Sec.

As Director of Public Prosecutions he obviously knew nothing about it - or Jimmy Saville. Wonderful record. A man on the street would have known more. Probably still would.

 


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DANGERCLOSE Flag London 11 Jul 24 10.27pm Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

How would you go about easing overcrowding?


Could always deport all non UK citizens who are currently in prison to their country of birth. This could free up a significant amount of space in prisons?

 

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eritheagle Flag Erith 11 Jul 24 11.50pm Send a Private Message to eritheagle Add eritheagle as a friend

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE


Could always deport all non UK citizens who are currently in prison to their country of birth. This could free up a significant amount of space in prisons?

Their countries won’t have them back.

Can’t believe their luck that our stupid country allowed them in in the first place!!

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 Jul 24 8.45am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by eritheagle

Their countries won’t have them back.

Can’t believe their luck that our stupid country allowed them in in the first place!!

We don’t “allow” them in. If they are illegal then they evaded the checks. If they are legal they gave undertakings about their past, and their attitudes, which if found to be lies would enable their visa to be withdrawn and for them to be removed. Actually removing them though is not as straightforward as enabling us to do it.

 


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