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Oddball2021 Adelaide 03 Mar 24 4.43am
Originally posted by cannongilbert Unfortunately Edouard and Hughes can in no way do the work(or some of the work) Ayew and Wharton do. Even like this if we didn't commit those uncharacterised errors(mainly Andersen) a point was not unreachable.The positives from the game are Richards and what Eze is capable of. Johnstone is and must continue to be the first choice keeper.Most of the other results went our way so it isn't as bad as it looks. COYP! I agree. More so Hughes than Edouard. I've had it with Hughes. He's weak and gets knocked silly all the time. He needs to workout in the gym and get some muscle mass. Anderson's (and Lerma) error in conceding the first goal is forgivable. But what I feel is that if mids like Hughes could "do their job" as some people suppose he/they can then that EFFING ball doesn't come back so often to over-stretch defenders. NOT ONCE have I seen Hughes pose any threat to our opponent's goal. I've seen Schlupp run,dribble and score, even from midfield, I've seen Edouard (on rare occassions) run and score from an assist, but never Hughes. He's barely a decent sub. I gave him time. I hoped he would do okay. But he hasn't. He aint got it. "Oh he can pass well" yippeedooo. I'd rather Ozoh than Hughes.
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Adelaide 03 Mar 24 4.43am

Originally posted by cannongilbert

Unfortunately Edouard and Hughes can in no way do the work(or some of the work) Ayew and Wharton do. Even like this if we didn't commit those uncharacterised errors(mainly Andersen) a point was not unreachable.The positives from the game are Richards and what Eze is capable of. Johnstone is and must continue to be the first choice keeper.Most of the other results went our way so it isn't as bad as it looks. COYP!

I agree. More so Hughes than Edouard. I've had it with Hughes. He's weak and gets knocked silly all the time. He needs to workout in the gym and get some muscle mass. Anderson's (and Lerma) error in conceding the first goal is forgivable. But what I feel is that if mids like Hughes could "do their job" as some people suppose he/they can then that EFFING ball doesn't come back so often to over-stretch defenders. NOT ONCE have I seen Hughes pose any threat to our opponent's goal. I've seen Schlupp run,dribble and score, even from midfield, I've seen Edouard (on rare occassions) run and score from an assist, but never Hughes.
He's barely a decent sub. I gave him time. I hoped he would do okay. But he hasn't. He aint got it. "Oh he can pass well" yippeedooo. I'd rather Ozoh than Hughes.

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Midlands Eagle 03 Mar 24 7.13am
Originally posted by grumpymort What is going on with Schlupp? He is out injured
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Originally posted by grumpymort

What is going on with Schlupp?

He is out injured

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southnorwoodhill 03 Mar 24 7.40am
Originally posted by grumpymort COmplete nonsense. Edouard is second highest scorer this season and keeps being put in places like left wing to defend. Hughes has done a job in many games is he pretty to watch no but is capable if put in correct role. Wharton does look good but I noticed he is not very quick this is something we really are lacking pace Eze did hardly anything he scored and the run before apart from that nothing. This system wont work with current players most of them are not mobile enough yes once this season is over and the fitness work can be started correctly it really will help but people like Mateta you can't make into someone who keeps chasing the ball even Roy understood this. When we signed Andersen I was not impressed but others praised it I mentioned back then how he was prone to errors look at Fulham and how he fell apart when they really needed him to step up. The manager really needs to do some research on our players he doesn't appear to understand much about them. What is going on with Schlupp? A common feature of his game. He can do the amazing, yes there's no doubt about that, but I was wondering how many luxury players the club needs? Also he never appears fully fit. I have hope that Glasner will find a way to get more out of Eze.
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Originally posted by grumpymort

COmplete nonsense.

Edouard is second highest scorer this season and keeps being put in places like left wing to defend.

Hughes has done a job in many games is he pretty to watch no but is capable if put in correct role.

Wharton does look good but I noticed he is not very quick this is something we really are lacking pace

Eze did hardly anything he scored and the run before apart from that nothing.

This system wont work with current players most of them are not mobile enough yes once this season is over and the fitness work can be started correctly it really will help but people like Mateta you can't make into someone who keeps chasing the ball even Roy understood this.

When we signed Andersen I was not impressed but others praised it I mentioned back then how he was prone to errors look at Fulham and how he fell apart when they really needed him to step up.

The manager really needs to do some research on our players he doesn't appear to understand much about them.

What is going on with Schlupp?

A common feature of his game. He can do the amazing, yes there's no doubt about that, but I was wondering how many luxury players the club needs? Also he never appears fully fit.
I have hope that Glasner will find a way to get more out of Eze.

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RubinsCube Wimbledon 03 Mar 24 7.44am
Originally posted by Oddball2021 I agree. More so Hughes than Edouard. I've had it with Hughes. He's weak and gets knocked silly all the time. He needs to workout in the gym and get some muscle mass. Anderson's (and Lerma) error in conceding the first goal is forgivable. But what I feel is that if mids like Hughes could "do their job" as some people suppose he/they can then that EFFING ball doesn't come back so often to over-stretch defenders. NOT ONCE have I seen Hughes pose any threat to our opponent's goal. I've seen Schlupp run,dribble and score, even from midfield, I've seen Edouard (on rare occassions) run and score from an assist, but never Hughes. He's barely a decent sub. I gave him time. I hoped he would do okay. But he hasn't. He aint got it. "Oh he can pass well" yippeedooo. I'd rather Ozoh than Hughes. I thought Hughes did ok in the first half against Chelsea. He was playing higher up in front of Wharton and Lerma, often initiating a press when we were out of possession and Chelsea's centre halves were dawdling on the ball. At times he made Silva look a little uncomfortable and snapped into several tackles well. I think if we had pressed more as a unit he might have had more luck in that game. Agreed in terms of us in possession: very little offensive threat from him albeit in his defence he often has been playing deep without being asked to do a box to box job.
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Wimbledon 03 Mar 24 7.44am

Originally posted by Oddball2021

I agree. More so Hughes than Edouard. I've had it with Hughes. He's weak and gets knocked silly all the time. He needs to workout in the gym and get some muscle mass. Anderson's (and Lerma) error in conceding the first goal is forgivable. But what I feel is that if mids like Hughes could "do their job" as some people suppose he/they can then that EFFING ball doesn't come back so often to over-stretch defenders. NOT ONCE have I seen Hughes pose any threat to our opponent's goal. I've seen Schlupp run,dribble and score, even from midfield, I've seen Edouard (on rare occassions) run and score from an assist, but never Hughes.
He's barely a decent sub. I gave him time. I hoped he would do okay. But he hasn't. He aint got it. "Oh he can pass well" yippeedooo. I'd rather Ozoh than Hughes.

I thought Hughes did ok in the first half against Chelsea. He was playing higher up in front of Wharton and Lerma, often initiating a press when we were out of possession and Chelsea's centre halves were dawdling on the ball. At times he made Silva look a little uncomfortable and snapped into several tackles well. I think if we had pressed more as a unit he might have had more luck in that game.

Agreed in terms of us in possession: very little offensive threat from him albeit in his defence he often has been playing deep without being asked to do a box to box job.

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ripleyeagle Ripley Surrey 03 Mar 24 8.25am
Originally posted by Oddball2021 I agree. More so Hughes than Edouard. I've had it with Hughes. He's weak and gets knocked silly all the time. He needs to workout in the gym and get some muscle mass. Anderson's (and Lerma) error in conceding the first goal is forgivable. But what I feel is that if mids like Hughes could "do their job" as some people suppose he/they can then that EFFING ball doesn't come back so often to over-stretch defenders. NOT ONCE have I seen Hughes pose any threat to our opponent's goal. I've seen Schlupp run,dribble and score, even from midfield, I've seen Edouard (on rare occassions) run and score from an assist, but never Hughes. He's barely a decent sub. I gave him time. I hoped he would do okay. But he hasn't. He aint got it. "Oh he can pass well" yippeedooo. I'd rather Ozoh than Hughes. I agree with you,can get away with it in the Championship with his lack of pace but not at this level.Also as said by someone, where is Schlupp ?
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Ripley Surrey 03 Mar 24 8.25am

Originally posted by Oddball2021

I agree with you,can get away with it in the Championship with his lack of pace but not at this level.Also as said by someone, where is Schlupp ?

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pssguy 03 Mar 24 8.33am
Originally posted by ripleyeagle I agree with you,can get away with it in the Championship with his lack of pace but not at this level.Also as said by someone, where is Schlupp ? Not sure where he is but as someone else mentioned he is injured. He may have played his last game for Palace. I'd rather the youngsters got his minutes for the remainder of the season
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03 Mar 24 8.33am

Originally posted by ripleyeagle

I agree with you,can get away with it in the Championship with his lack of pace but not at this level.Also as said by someone, where is Schlupp ?

Not sure where he is but as someone else mentioned he is injured. He may have played his last game for Palace. I'd rather the youngsters got his minutes for the remainder of the season

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thai-eagle chiang mai 03 Mar 24 8.34am
Originally posted by ripleyeagle I agree with you,can get away with it in the Championship with his lack of pace but not at this level.Also as said by someone, where is Schlupp ? Hoped he was on a cruise ship never to return. He is NOT the answer...
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chiang mai 03 Mar 24 8.34am

Originally posted by ripleyeagle

I agree with you,can get away with it in the Championship with his lack of pace but not at this level.Also as said by someone, where is Schlupp ?

Hoped he was on a cruise ship never to return. He is NOT the answer...

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kevlee born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 03 Mar 24 8.53am
A few thoughts having slept on it. 1. Who is telling Ayew to take corners and free kicks because they were awful. 2. Edouard and Franca were both poor when they came on, constantly losing the ball and not getting involved. Franca looked lost to me, like he was on a different level, i.e. about two divisions below. 3. Hughes is a liability in the fouls he commits to try and salvage situations where he loses the ball. However, Ozoh is no answer as he is very lightweight and petrified of the ball and needs to go out on loan. 4. Someone complained about Eze and how many luxury players do we need? Well he's the only one we've got so what are you complaining about. Who else in the side shows any creativity apart from him? 5. End of the day they put their foot down at the end and we were easily beaten by a better team. Simple fact is we need better players. Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978
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born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 03 Mar 24 8.53am

A few thoughts having slept on it.
1. Who is telling Ayew to take corners and free kicks because they were awful.
2. Edouard and Franca were both poor when they came on, constantly losing the ball and not getting involved. Franca looked lost to me, like he was on a different level, i.e. about two divisions below.
3. Hughes is a liability in the fouls he commits to try and salvage situations where he loses the ball. However, Ozoh is no answer as he is very lightweight and petrified of the ball and needs to go out on loan.
4. Someone complained about Eze and how many luxury players do we need? Well he's the only one we've got so what are you complaining about. Who else in the side shows any creativity apart from him?
5. End of the day they put their foot down at the end and we were easily beaten by a better team. Simple fact is we need better players.

Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978

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DenTyler Sidcup 03 Mar 24 8.55am
Originally posted by thai-eagle Hoped he was on a cruise ship never to return. He is NOT the answer... Fitness is the answer. I was reading an article about how OG wants to press press press. In his interviews he is saying that the levels are only there for 70 minutes. It is clear that this is the issue. The players clearly have the tools for much of the game it is the fitness they don’t have. Look where we would be if we could carry our first hours level into the final stages, we would be top half of the table. I also read this week that OG has the players in on Sundays now, he wants intense training up to Thursdays with the ability to play 120 minutes at high intensity. Once the Luton game is out of the way and with 3 weeks break to train I really think we will see a sharper fitter team against Forest and Bournemouth.
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Sidcup 03 Mar 24 8.55am

Originally posted by thai-eagle

Hoped he was on a cruise ship never to return. He is NOT the answer...

Fitness is the answer. I was reading an article about how OG wants to press press press. In his interviews he is saying that the levels are only there for 70 minutes.

It is clear that this is the issue. The players clearly have the tools for much of the game it is the fitness they don’t have. Look where we would be if we could carry our first hours level into the final stages, we would be top half of the table.

I also read this week that OG has the players in on Sundays now, he wants intense training up to Thursdays with the ability to play 120 minutes at high intensity.

Once the Luton game is out of the way and with 3 weeks break to train I really think we will see a sharper fitter team against Forest and Bournemouth.

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DenTyler Sidcup 03 Mar 24 8.57am
Originally posted by kevlee A few thoughts having slept on it. 1. Who is telling Ayew to take corners and free kicks because they were awful. 2. Edouard and Franca were both poor when they came on, constantly losing the ball and not getting involved. Franca looked lost to me, like he was on a different level, i.e. about two divisions below. 3. Hughes is a liability in the fouls he commits to try and salvage situations where he loses the ball. However, Ozoh is no answer as he is very lightweight and petrified of the ball and needs to go out on loan. 4. Someone complained about Eze and how many luxury players do we need? Well he's the only one we've got so what are you complaining about. Who else in the side shows any creativity apart from him? 5. End of the day they put their foot down at the end and we were easily beaten by a better team. Simple fact is we need better players. Agreed totally on Ayew and corners. For a terrible second I thought he wanted to take Eze free kick. Terrible. Agreed with Edouard and Franca. Really disappointed in Franca (sort of come to expect it from Edouard) but on occasions Franca has looked fast and promising but yesterday awful and lost. Hughes, seems to take him too long as a sub to get up to the speed of the game and ends up giving a lot of free kicks away. Eze is a luxury worth having. Happy if he does nothing and then produces that kind of dead ball and it was his first game back. Agreed. The are simply much fitter and had the ability to put there foot down when we were blowing out our backsides. Edited by DenTyler (03 Mar 2024 9.05am)
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Sidcup 03 Mar 24 8.57am

Originally posted by kevlee

Agreed totally on Ayew and corners. For a terrible second I thought he wanted to take Eze free kick. Terrible.

Agreed with Edouard and Franca. Really disappointed in Franca (sort of come to expect it from Edouard) but on occasions Franca has looked fast and promising but yesterday awful and lost.

Hughes, seems to take him too long as a sub to get up to the speed of the game and ends up giving a lot of free kicks away.

Eze is a luxury worth having. Happy if he does nothing and then produces that kind of dead ball and it was his first game back.

Agreed. The are simply much fitter and had the ability to put there foot down when we were blowing out our backsides.

Edited by DenTyler (03 Mar 2024 9.05am)

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Badger11 Beckenham 03 Mar 24 9.16am
Originally posted by DenTyler Agreed totally on Ayew and corners. For a terrible second I thought he wanted to take Eze free kick. Terrible. Agreed with Edouard and Franca. Really disappointed in Franca (sort of come to expect it from Edouard) but on occasions Franca has looked fast and promising but yesterday awful and lost. Hughes, seems to take him too long as a sub to get up to the speed of the game and ends up giving a lot of free kicks away. Eze is a luxury worth having. Happy if he does nothing and then produces that kind of dead ball and it was his first game back. Agreed. The are simply much fitter and had the ability to put there foot down when we were blowing out our backsides. Edited by DenTyler (03 Mar 2024 9.05am) I think this is a valid point. Some players are just not good subs, it's going to take OG a while to work out who can come on and make an impact. One more point
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Beckenham 03 Mar 24 9.16am

Originally posted by DenTyler

Agreed totally on Ayew and corners. For a terrible second I thought he wanted to take Eze free kick. Terrible.

Agreed with Edouard and Franca. Really disappointed in Franca (sort of come to expect it from Edouard) but on occasions Franca has looked fast and promising but yesterday awful and lost.

Hughes, seems to take him too long as a sub to get up to the speed of the game and ends up giving a lot of free kicks away.

Eze is a luxury worth having. Happy if he does nothing and then produces that kind of dead ball and it was his first game back.

Agreed. The are simply much fitter and had the ability to put there foot down when we were blowing out our backsides.

Edited by DenTyler (03 Mar 2024 9.05am)

I think this is a valid point. Some players are just not good subs, it's going to take OG a while to work out who can come on and make an impact.

One more point

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 03 Mar 24 9.23am
Originally posted by Badger11 I think this is a valid point. Some players are just not good subs, it's going to take OG a while to work out who can come on and make an impact. Hire Roy and you know that you can get away with a minimal spend and little player movement. Hire Glasner and I think we can expect the opposite. I think Dougie is going to have a busy summer ! Old, Ungifted and White
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Shoreham-by-Sea 03 Mar 24 9.23am

Originally posted by Badger11

I think this is a valid point. Some players are just not good subs, it's going to take OG a while to work out who can come on and make an impact.

Hire Roy and you know that you can get away with a minimal spend and little player movement.

Hire Glasner and I think we can expect the opposite.

I think Dougie is going to have a busy summer !

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