Perhaps but the investigation was done jointly with the Times. I guess the question is who kicked it off? Did the Times approach C4 or the other way around.

Either way C4 realised that if they didn't get in front of this story sooner or later another media company would. Sorry that is just my cynical opinion of the media.

One more point

If it's hilarious to you then at least you're laughing so there's some positive to come from it.

I've already answered this point you make here, which SW19 previously made but you probably didn't read it so I'll repeat that here....Like him you may not accept it but I feel it's valid as you're implying that to suggest conspiracy for anything other than organic reasons is paranoid.

Your first point is that he's not important enough to take down.

Ok, here is my response to that. Brand has a larger Youtube viewing audience than many official media outlets. Name me an anti establishment figure of a similar size to Russell Brand that hasn't been taken down? Why on earth wouldn't they look to take them down?

Your second point is that not many people are anti establishment and 'conspiratorial type stuff'. Really? Trump is supported by roughly half of America and people aren't into anti establishment 'conspiratorial type stuff'? In reality trust in institutions and government is declining and efforts to restrict 'misinformation' by the establishment is all happening in plain sight.

Yet you seem to think that the establishment are just sitting on their hands doing nothing about it.....When all the evidence goes against that. You obviously have never read the many memoirs from former intelligence who also talk about the many underhands activities that go on.

I'll also make the obvious and strongest point against your claims here is that the investigation against Brand is four years old. Well, Brand has been a celebrity for decades. Brand had been a shagging machine for most of that...maybe all.

Brand's promiscuous behaviour had been commented about pretty much from the start....but while he was in the mainstream nothing.

However, it's only been since he's become political against the mainstream that there's an interest in investigating him. It's nearly always the anti establishment figures that you get to hear about.

But you think noticing that is childish....well ok, I guess I'll have to buy myself an action man.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Sep 2023 6.16pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I thought twice before making the comparisons for exactly this kind of response. Which can be read in these pages countless times. Everyone of them misrepresenting or misunderstanding my position. One poster here is particularly guilty of this.

For the avoidance of any doubt I am not offering any mitigation or playing down the evil men who groom and abuse children. They are criminals of the worst kind who deserve to be identified, prosecuted and punished.

My objections were always to the way that certain sections of the media, and the self opinionated attention seeking Yaxley-Lennon, tried to turn this into an anti-Islam anti-pakistan campaign. Neither Islam nor pakistan are responsible for the evil and the way this campaign was waged made things more difficult for the police, rather than help them bring criminals to justice.

The police were on the cases but with over stretched resources handled them in ways that were subsequently found to be inadequate. I continue to have sympathy for them as they were between a rock and a hard place. One in which whatever they did they would have been criticised. Especially as there is strong evidence they were following a strategy handed down from the centre. Criticism is cheap and easy when what you are criticising hasn’t been given the tools to do the job.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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So what? One person’s view is only that. They are entitled to hold it, but it doesn’t make it right. Mine is different. I am also entitled to hold it. That others don’t agree doesn’t make it wrong.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Of course. Mind you it was the Rotherham police chief who said it and he might have had a clue.