You should not even consider having to try tbh. Me, yes I don’t actually think it’s normal but wouldn’t stoop to insults; if me not believing it’s normal contributes then I can only accept I may be wrong in certain eyes but that’s the beauty of opinions.

RIP for your friend Tim, that's not a happy story.

Interestingly enough, whilst I continue to vehemently argue against it, I am not adverse to considering examples such as the one you have described to have some credence.

What I do object to however, is when something which may seem like a '1 in x amount' absolute rarity suddenly becomes some sort of mainstream movement and the efforts to understand it become obfuscated by political dogma promulgated by failures who want things such as gender neutral changing rooms and toilets just so they can alter the world ever so slightly to justify their inadequacy. What's even more shocking is not just the imposition of this bonkers ideology upon adults but children too.

You have presented your friend as somebody who just wanted to gain an understanding or solution to their questions/problems etc. without any other motivation. Anybody in that cart I would only wish the best for them and of course support. I really do think the somewhat pseudoscience behind this is terrifying too, it is to a certain extent experimental and Mengele-esque. Having spent much of my childhood on Stanstead Road (Forest Hill end) and playing home matches at the Power League on Sunday, I would however still be inclined to think living in Catford can be more detrimental to both physical and mental wellbeing.

I agree there are genuine cases that deserve sympathy.... perhaps sympathy is the wrong word as it's condescending....maybe understanding is a better word....but that isn't the same thing as positive promotion of a damaging lifestyle.

The vast majority of girls and boys both identify with and need positive male and female role models. These should be positive versions of masculinity and femininity, with the understanding that everyone has versions of it and rarely perfectly matches any model. But the idea that no models or framework should exist just throws the younger generations to the wolves in my opinion....those without good parents can be lost and often are...especially today, a huge amount of damage is out there.

The idea that all lifestyles are equal in worth is a lie, both statistically and practically.....We should be trying to help younger generations, not confuse them and make them willing prey both to degenerates and the mentally ill.....When I went to school, teachers would warn us to stay away from the kind of people that society today paints as positive.

I'm essentially against transgenderism as something that society should be promoting at all. However, I pretty much agree with all your commentary on it where you raised an excellent real life example.

I remember Quentin Crisp from my younger days and he always struck me as someone with this mental condition who was actually very noble and in many ways wise....he certainly wasn't the snowflake nor politically correct creature that the alphabet community like to promote today.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Oct 2022 10.53pm)

Absolutely agree with this, but you missed out actually saying they need a mother/father upbringing.

That is what has promoted all the confusion about sexuality. Lots of children had doubts about their sexuality when I grew up, but they had role models to guide them. Now we have many more single parents and messed up kids and excess poverty, leading to more confused and sexually maladjusted kids, excess crime, drug abuse, etc. And the state appear to be complicit.