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 cryrst  The garden of England 14 Oct 20 8.09pm |
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Originally posted by Shifty97
Firstly how is that terrorism? They took action though as the statue was of a slave owner, as they felt it was disrespectful, however I don’t approve of doing stuff like that. Haven’t seen the Twitter post, so did he post the baboon picture instead of himself? I would love to move on but I feel like ignoring it won’t make the problem go away They felt it was disrespectful, although he paid for half of everything in bristol. Their houses, their university, their high streets. Bet none have left uni, given back their keys or stopped shopping there. Double standard hypocrisy.
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punksnotdead  croydon 15 Oct 20 5.57pm |
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
So how do you feel about all those terrorists in Bristol tearing the statue down? I for one call that a crime yet no one was charged. Also Shifty, I would be interested to here your view on the Twitter post that the Everton fellah did when he went to PSG with a picture of a baboon. Bolasie replied with 3 baboons. Now we can’t have it both ways can we? Or can we? My latest take is that the whole race issue thing wants its cake and eat it. Personally I feel the whole thing has been totally over egged. Most of us have left the racist thing behind ages ago. We all should move on positively and stop drawing attention to it. Like when Sterling just laughed at the Chelsea.
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| dreamwaverider London 15 Oct 20 6.13pm |
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Originally posted by punksnotdead
It would have instilled terror into me if I had been there but I take your point.
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| Shifty97 Croydon 15 Oct 20 6.28pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Have a look around and you will see they are, in a way that you cant or dont want to see. Positive discrimination is happening here and now. Check out the media for the evidence. Not racism but discrimination over colour. Is one worse than the other? You seriously believe that white people get discriminated the same as ethnic minorities? You have got to be kidding me
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crvenaeagle  15 Oct 20 7.43pm |
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I note that in the recent international against Denmark at the peep of the whistle Marcud Rashford, along with a few others started to play, whilst the others dropped into the obedience posit-I mean the kneeling position and so the ball had to be returned to the centre circle. Seems even the players are getting tired of this tripe.
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| cryrst The garden of England 15 Oct 20 8.03pm |
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Originally posted by Shifty97
You seriously believe that white people get discriminated the same as ethnic minorities? You have got to be kidding me Nope I dont but I just stated a fact as you mentioned discrimination.
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| Shifty97 Croydon 15 Oct 20 10.10pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Nope I dont but I just stated a fact as you mentioned discrimination. I did actually mean to put racism as well as discrimination in my earlier post. Positive discrimination isn’t against white people it aims to get more ethnic monorities into a job but it doesn’t mean that they just won’t accept white people and positive discrimination is not even used all that much
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| Shifty97 Croydon 15 Oct 20 10.25pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Even white people. But here I meant to say that white people don’t experience the same discrimination and racism as ethnic minorities so there isn’t really a need for them
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 16 Oct 20 12.24am |
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Originally posted by Shifty97
You seriously believe that white people get discriminated the same as ethnic minorities? You have got to be kidding me Are you saying that white people are more racist than ethnic minorities?
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| Eaglecoops CR3 16 Oct 20 3.20pm |
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Originally posted by Shifty97
But here I meant to say that white people don’t experience the same discrimination and racism as ethnic minorities so there isn’t really a need for them I’ll give you an example of where they are. If someone is given a job only because of positive discrimination then every white person who also applied for that job has been discriminated against because of a deliberate decision making process that is not based on merit. It doesn’t get more racist than that. Meritocracy is the only true measure of who should get a job. I would be happy if every top job was taken by ethnic minorities if they were the right people for the jobs, but not because some signal virtueing idiot decides they are underrepresented and should therefore be given the role just to balance the books.
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| Shifty97 Croydon 16 Oct 20 5.12pm |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Are you saying that white people are more racist than ethnic minorities? No
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| Shifty97 Croydon 16 Oct 20 5.14pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
I’ll give you an example of where they are. If someone is given a job only because of positive discrimination then every white person who also applied for that job has been discriminated against because of a deliberate decision making process that is not based on merit. It doesn’t get more racist than that. Meritocracy is the only true measure of who should get a job. I would be happy if every top job was taken by ethnic minorities if they were the right people for the jobs, but not because some signal virtueing idiot decides they are underrepresented and should therefore be given the role just to balance the books. Yes it is racist and therefore unacceptable but this doesn’t happen all that much, it is not happening to the same extent that ethnic minorities experience racism or discrimination. Also isn’t positive discrimination unlawful? Edited by Shifty97 (16 Oct 2020 5.30pm) Edited by Shifty97 (16 Oct 2020 5.43pm)
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