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Stirlingsays 17 Aug 20 2.57pm
I know it's tempting because it's bait but it's best to stop replying to him. There really is no point. He's been ripped open so many times on this forum I've lost count, he's contradicted himself endlessly and he's taken terrible positions defending the establishment....especially over the rape scandals...yet it doesn't impact him one bit. He's so far up his own tube he couldn't tell the light from the dark. He isn't here for debate, he's here strictly to bait and read his own self absorbed commentary. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2020 3.00pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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17 Aug 20 2.57pm

I know it's tempting because it's bait but it's best to stop replying to him.

There really is no point.

He's been ripped open so many times on this forum I've lost count, he's contradicted himself endlessly and he's taken terrible positions defending the establishment....especially over the rape scandals...yet it doesn't impact him one bit. He's so far up his own tube he couldn't tell the light from the dark.

He isn't here for debate, he's here strictly to bait and read his own self absorbed commentary.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2020 3.00pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Spiderman Horsham 17 Aug 20 6.12pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I know it's tempting because it's bait but it's best to stop replying to him. There really is no point. He's been ripped open so many times on this forum I've lost count, he's contradicted himself endlessly and he's taken terrible positions defending the establishment....especially over the rape scandals...yet it doesn't impact him one bit. He's so far up his own tube he couldn't tell the light from the dark. He isn't here for debate, he's here strictly to bait and read his own self absorbed commentary. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2020 3.00pm) How right you are. Mapletree incoming!
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Horsham 17 Aug 20 6.12pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I know it's tempting because it's bait but it's best to stop replying to him.

There really is no point.

He isn't here for debate, he's here strictly to bait and read his own self absorbed commentary.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2020 3.00pm)

How right you are. Mapletree incoming!

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cryrst The garden of England 17 Aug 20 6.50pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Do you actually read what I write, or are you just unable to comprehend it? I am not blaming the Police, individually or collectively. Playing the blame game is pointless. No-one is doing these things deliberately. What has gradually become understood is that our society, of which the Police are a part, has systemic built-in racist prejudice which impacts everything. Most of us, whatever our backgrounds, are unaware of it but it is demonstrated in threads like these all the time. The Police, being on the front line, are more often in the spotlight than most of us are. It's not simply a question of who breaks the law gets punished. It's who gets targetted as suspects and who gets ignored because of inbuilt prejudices. It's about the way suspects are handled and whether cases get brought in front of Judges or allowed to walk away with warnings. Biden did not, could not and would not write any such law. That politically he might have supported or even sponsored something is an entirely different issue which would need to be seen in the context that prevailed at the time. For the umpteenth time. I am not a "leftie". I have no sympathy at all for left-wing politics. I am a social democrat who believes in justice for all. I am not a reactionary advocate of right-wing politics. So we are all unconsciously racist. Just white police and white people. No blacks who constantly use that as a weapon to try to be right or rather not wrong. Blacks are treated harsher than whites. Wheres the evidence including figures on the pro rata side.
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The garden of England 17 Aug 20 6.50pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Do you actually read what I write, or are you just unable to comprehend it?

I am not blaming the Police, individually or collectively. Playing the blame game is pointless. No-one is doing these things deliberately. What has gradually become understood is that our society, of which the Police are a part, has systemic built-in racist prejudice which impacts everything.

Most of us, whatever our backgrounds, are unaware of it but it is demonstrated in threads like these all the time.

The Police, being on the front line, are more often in the spotlight than most of us are.

It's not simply a question of who breaks the law gets punished. It's who gets targetted as suspects and who gets ignored because of inbuilt prejudices. It's about the way suspects are handled and whether cases get brought in front of Judges or allowed to walk away with warnings.

Biden did not, could not and would not write any such law. That politically he might have supported or even sponsored something is an entirely different issue which would need to be seen in the context that prevailed at the time.

For the umpteenth time. I am not a "leftie". I have no sympathy at all for left-wing politics. I am a social democrat who believes in justice for all. I am not a reactionary advocate of right-wing
politics.

So we are all unconsciously racist.
Just white police and white people.
No blacks who constantly use that as a weapon to try to be right or rather not wrong.
Blacks are treated harsher than whites.
Wheres the evidence including figures on the pro rata side.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Aug 20 6.52pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I know it's tempting because it's bait but it's best to stop replying to him. There really is no point. He's been ripped open so many times on this forum I've lost count, he's contradicted himself endlessly and he's taken terrible positions defending the establishment....especially over the rape scandals...yet it doesn't impact him one bit. He's so far up his own tube he couldn't tell the light from the dark. He isn't here for debate, he's here strictly to bait and read his own self absorbed commentary. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2020 3.00pm) I presume that is intended to be addressed to me. The idea that I have been "ripped open so many times" is so risible it made me laugh out loud. The delusion that permeates this site knows no bounds. I also am consistent, especially on the "rape scandals" on which I have repeatedly have had to correct this poster and call him out for gross misrepresentation. But you are right on one thing. I am not here for debate. I long ago realised that trying to debate with the group of reactionary bigots who populate this site is a waste of time. No amount of common sense and calm reasoning gets any kind of response other than insult from all but a very few. There are exceptions but they are thin on the ground. I now drop in here from time to time to make sure that these scandalous views are not allowed to stand without challenge. Without you thinking that the views inside your little bubble are shared by many others. Because they aren't. They are seriously weird. I have much more important things to do than try to debate with those who are just a waste of time and effort. There are fertile minds out there which can be infuenced and harnessed so that our country can progress as it must. They aren't found here though. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 17 Aug 20 6.52pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I know it's tempting because it's bait but it's best to stop replying to him.

There really is no point.

He isn't here for debate, he's here strictly to bait and read his own self absorbed commentary.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2020 3.00pm)

I presume that is intended to be addressed to me.

The idea that I have been "ripped open so many times" is so risible it made me laugh out loud. The delusion that permeates this site knows no bounds.

I also am consistent, especially on the "rape scandals" on which I have repeatedly have had to correct this poster and call him out for gross misrepresentation.

But you are right on one thing. I am not here for debate. I long ago realised that trying to debate with the group of reactionary bigots who populate this site is a waste of time. No amount of common sense and calm reasoning gets any kind of response other than insult from all but a very few. There are exceptions but they are thin on the ground.

I now drop in here from time to time to make sure that these scandalous views are not allowed to stand without challenge. Without you thinking that the views inside your little bubble are shared by many others. Because they aren't. They are seriously weird.

I have much more important things to do than try to debate with those who are just a waste of time and effort. There are fertile minds out there which can be infuenced and harnessed so that our country can progress as it must. They aren't found here though.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Aug 20 6.54pm
Originally posted by cryrst So we are all unconsciously racist. Just white police and white people. No blacks who constantly use that as a weapon to try to be right or rather not wrong. Blacks are treated harsher than whites. Wheres the evidence including figures on the pro rata side. No, and I neither said that or implied it. It affects everyone, whatever their background. The way it shows itself varies but our cultural history impacts the behaviour of all in society. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 17 Aug 20 6.54pm

Originally posted by cryrst

No, and I neither said that or implied it.

It affects everyone, whatever their background. The way it shows itself varies but our cultural history impacts the behaviour of all in society.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Spiderman Horsham 17 Aug 20 6.58pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I presume that is intended to be addressed to me. The idea that I have been "ripped open so many times" is so risible it made me laugh out loud. The delusion that permeates this site knows no bounds. I also am consistent, especially on the "rape scandals" on which I have repeatedly have had to correct this poster and call him out for gross misrepresentation. But you are right on one thing. I am not here for debate. I long ago realised that trying to debate with the group of reactionary bigots who populate this site is a waste of time. No amount of common sense and calm reasoning gets any kind of response other than insult from all but a very few. There are exceptions but they are thin on the ground. I now drop in here from time to time to make sure that these scandalous views are not allowed to stand without challenge. Without you thinking that the views inside your little bubble are shared by many others. Because they aren't. They are seriously weird. I have much more important things to do than try to debate with those who are just a waste of time and effort. There are fertile minds out there which can be infuenced and harnessed so that our country can progress as it must. They aren't found here though. Here endeth the lesson from one of the most patronising arrogant people I have had the misfortune to come into contact with. Don’t come on here on our account, stay in your own little SW bubble and rest on your self serving laurels
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Horsham 17 Aug 20 6.58pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I presume that is intended to be addressed to me.

The idea that I have been "ripped open so many times" is so risible it made me laugh out loud. The delusion that permeates this site knows no bounds.

I also am consistent, especially on the "rape scandals" on which I have repeatedly have had to correct this poster and call him out for gross misrepresentation.

Here endeth the lesson from one of the most patronising arrogant people I have had the misfortune to come into contact with.
Don’t come on here on our account, stay in your own little SW bubble and rest on your self serving laurels

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cryrst The garden of England 17 Aug 20 7.08pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle No, and I neither said that or implied it. It affects everyone, whatever their background. The way it shows itself varies but our cultural history impacts the behaviour of all in society. Check your posts as you did imply and stated that the police are racist along with the unknown prejudice in all of us which we are only just seeing. Our cultural history is very long. If your correct then can that really be changed in a couple of decades. You cannot re educate some one, what you can do is educate someone. The older generation will never think differently. Time is the key and all these sjws and snowflakes need to give it just that ,time.
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The garden of England 17 Aug 20 7.08pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No, and I neither said that or implied it.

It affects everyone, whatever their background. The way it shows itself varies but our cultural history impacts the behaviour of all in society.

Check your posts as you did imply and stated that the police are racist along with the unknown prejudice in all of us which we are only just seeing. Our cultural history is very long.
If your correct then can that really be changed in a couple of decades.
You cannot re educate some one, what you can do is educate someone. The older generation will never think differently.
Time is the key and all these sjws and snowflakes need to give it just that ,time.

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m/k mick milton keynes 17 Aug 20 7.31pm
seems to be a lot of opinions about racism on here, here is my two pennies worth, every single race or culture has racism, black and white is a cop out, there always has been racism always will be and it is based on ONE thing Poverty! not of colour, so called richer people look down on poorer and want to keep them there to preserve their wealth advantage
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milton keynes 17 Aug 20 7.31pm

seems to be a lot of opinions about racism on here, here is my two pennies worth, every single race or culture has racism, black and white is a cop out, there always has been racism always will be and it is based on ONE thing Poverty! not of colour, so called richer people look down on poorer and want to keep them there to preserve their wealth advantage

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Spiderman Horsham 17 Aug 20 7.43pm
Originally posted by m/k mick seems to be a lot of opinions about racism on here, here is my two pennies worth, every single race or culture has racism, black and white is a cop out, there always has been racism always will be and it is based on ONE thing Poverty! not of colour, so called richer people look down on poorer and want to keep them there to preserve their wealth advantage Yes you are correct. Some of the worst examples to highlight your last point, is not about colour ( so not racism) but the caste system in India. I have even seen examples at work here. Working a shift system, we could, if required, request shift swaps with colleagues. 2 such colleagues were of Indian descent, 1 kept agreeing to swaps with the other even though it did not suit him. I asked why he agreed, he openly admitted that the other person was of a higher caste and therefore he felt he could not refuse.
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Horsham 17 Aug 20 7.43pm

Originally posted by m/k mick

Yes you are correct. Some of the worst examples to highlight your last point, is not about colour ( so not racism) but the caste system in India.
I have even seen examples at work here. Working a shift system, we could, if required, request shift swaps with colleagues. 2 such colleagues were of Indian descent, 1 kept agreeing to swaps with the other even though it did not suit him. I asked why he agreed, he openly admitted that the other person was of a higher caste and therefore he felt he could not refuse.

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cryrst The garden of England 17 Aug 20 8.32pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Yes you are correct. Some of the worst examples to highlight your last point, is not about colour ( so not racism) but the caste system in India. I have even seen examples at work here. Working a shift system, we could, if required, request shift swaps with colleagues. 2 such colleagues were of Indian descent, 1 kept agreeing to swaps with the other even though it did not suit him. I asked why he agreed, he openly admitted that the other person was of a higher caste and therefore he felt he could not refuse. I shouldnt but that just reminds me of del and his statue.
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The garden of England 17 Aug 20 8.32pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

I shouldnt but that just reminds me of del and his statue.

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Spiderman Horsham 17 Aug 20 9.02pm
Originally posted by cryrst I shouldnt but that just reminds me of del and his statue. I really couldn’t believe what I heard. This is modern day U.K. with 2 people who have spent many years in the U.K. The higher caste colleague was 30 odd years younger as well. Unbelievable and many of these call us racist and intolerant, ffs
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Horsham 17 Aug 20 9.02pm

Originally posted by cryrst

I shouldnt but that just reminds me of del and his statue.

I really couldn’t believe what I heard. This is modern day U.K. with 2 people who have spent many years in the U.K. The higher caste colleague was 30 odd years younger as well. Unbelievable and many of these call us racist and intolerant, ffs

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Mapletree Croydon 17 Aug 20 10.33pm
Originally posted by Spiderman How right you are. Mapletree incoming! What do you want? Wisbech is fully able to fight his own corner. That’s appears to be why Stirling seems to get so upset by him Oh, and because Stirling paid him lots of money to educate his children. Edited by Mapletree (17 Aug 2020 10.36pm)
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