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Stirlingsays 07 Jan 18 7.03pm | |
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Originally posted by chelys
Another telling example of what we are talking about is from South Africa. The Sharpeville massacre of 69 people in 1960 is quite rightly regarded as a prime example of the oppressive nature of the then Apartheid government. Many expressions of disgust over it and demonstrations by the left then and now, many many articles, documentaries etc covering it, used in history lessons - quite right too, it should be highlighted. Seconded, while there are exceptions as you mentioned, it's an accurate observation and criticism of political tribalism.
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chelys London 07 Jan 18 7.10pm | |
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As most of you no doubt realise my post should have read " Because the left cannot be seen to criticise a black government in South Africa - the pretence that they are not corrupt and worse has to be maintained purely for political reasons. "
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Kermit8 Hevon 07 Jan 18 7.15pm | |
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Originally posted by chelys
As most of you no doubt realise my post should have read " Because the left cannot be seen to criticise a black government in South Africa - the pretence that they are not corrupt and worse has to be maintained purely for political reasons. " Leftie Peter Tatchell tried to citizen arrest Robert Mugabe and has been a very vocal critic of him for donkeys years before he was ousted. And every BBC news programme has always been very forward in showing his corruption and crimes and failure for decades as leader. Edited by Kermit8 (07 Jan 2018 7.16pm)
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Kermit8 Hevon 07 Jan 18 7.25pm | |
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Originally posted by chelys
Another telling example of what we are talking about is from South Africa. The Sharpeville massacre of 69 people in 1960 is quite rightly regarded as a prime example of the oppressive nature of the then Apartheid government. Many expressions of disgust over it and demonstrations by the left then and now, many many articles, documentaries etc covering it, used in history lessons - quite right too, it should be highlighted. Edited by chelys (07 Jan 2018 7.09pm) Yes in 2012 it happened. The silence from the right-wing Tory majority coalition Government and Prime Minister Cameron was deafening. The Guardian picked up on the incident though to expose the police criminals [Link] You must have missed all that
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Stirlingsays 07 Jan 18 7.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Leftie Peter Tatchell tried to citizen arrest Robert Mugabe and has been a very vocal critic of him for donkeys years before he was ousted. And every BBC news programme has always been very forward in showing his corruption and crimes and failure for decades as leader. Edited by Kermit8 (07 Jan 2018 7.16pm) Is that the same Peter Tatchell deplatformed by your leftie 'progressives'?
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Kermit8 Hevon 07 Jan 18 7.32pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Is that the same Peter Tatchell deplatformed by your leftie 'progressives'? Students, eh? What are they like? I don't really identify with militant lesbian activists. Too masculine.
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Stirlingsays 07 Jan 18 7.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Yes in 2012 it happened. The silence from the right-wing Tory majority coalition Government and Prime Minister Cameron was deafening. The Guardian picked up on the incident though to expose the police criminals [Link] You must have missed all that Is EU supporting Tory toff ad man Cameron meant to speak for the right? The majority of Tory MPs aren't that right wing....apart from the EU...they just look out for property owners and the city and that's about it.
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Kermit8 Hevon 07 Jan 18 7.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Is EU supporting Tory toff ad man Cameron meant to speak for the right? The majority of Tory MPs aren't that right wing....apart from the EU...they just look out for property owners and the city and that's about it. Don't be daft. The Conservative Party is a right-wing party. Just not right-wing enough for you.
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Stirlingsays 07 Jan 18 7.36pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Students, eh? What are they like? I don't really identify with militant lesbian activists. Too masculine. Well, they are 'progressives' but nice to hear you disavow some left wing extremists.....still you were the one with the 'head in your hands' emoticon when I said antifa were nearly as bad as the far right. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jan 2018 7.36pm)
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Kermit8 Hevon 07 Jan 18 7.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Well, they are 'progressives' but nice to hear you disavow some left wing extremists.....still you were the one with the 'head in your hands' emoticon when I said antifa were nearly as bad as the far right. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jan 2018 7.36pm) That could have been any one of your political posts tbf.
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Stirlingsays 07 Jan 18 7.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Don't be daft. The Conservative Party is a right-wing party. Just not right-wing enough for you.
That's how 'right wing' the Tory party is......that was SJW May's laws.
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Kermit8 Hevon 07 Jan 18 7.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
That's how 'right wing' the Tory party is......that was SJW May's laws. Yes, but what's the point in deluding yourself that The Conservative Party is not right-wing? Blair was not Left-wing enough for my liking and took the reins way too close to the centre and ended up chummying up to some horrible right-wing nasties but Labour itself was still of the left in essence even if watery and diluted.
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