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 The Dolphin  23 Nov 17 1.05pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
All to do with angles and the referees view. Happens very fast and the referee has to consider if any contact was made and the degree of contact etc etc.Trust me, it can be very difficult - we see incidents umpteen times in 'Slow-Mo'. In Saturday's case he blew way too quickly and he knew it. Edited by The Dolphin (23 Nov 2017 1.05pm)
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| Eaglecoops CR3 23 Nov 17 1.14pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
All to do with angles and the referees view. Happens very fast and the referee has to consider if any contact was made and the degree of contact etc etc.Trust me, it can be very difficult - we see incidents umpteen times in 'Slow-Mo'. If it is all to do with angles and it is very difficult, then why go with the penalty option. Does the defender not get the benefit of the doubt unless the ref clearly sees an offence has been committed? If that is the case he must have clearly seen Niasse's legs hacked away from him, yes? Or, was he just guessing? Far more likely in my opinion and hence the reason why he should never have pointed to the spot.
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chateauferret  23 Nov 17 1.18pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
If it is all to do with angles and it is very difficult, then why go with the penalty option. Does the defender not get the benefit of the doubt unless the ref clearly sees an offence has been committed? If that is the case he must have clearly seen Niasse's legs hacked away from him, yes? Or, was he just guessing? Far more likely in my opinion and hence the reason why he should never have pointed to the spot. Is the correct answer.
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Littlebogreek  23 Nov 17 1.39pm |
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Don't have the motivation to read all 15 pages and anyway, I expect them to be filled with Willo defending the refereeing so not really worth reading.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Nov 17 1.39pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
If it is all to do with angles and it is very difficult, then why go with the penalty option. Does the defender not get the benefit of the doubt unless the ref clearly sees an offence has been committed? If that is the case he must have clearly seen Niasse's legs hacked away from him, yes? Or, was he just guessing? Far more likely in my opinion and hence the reason why he should never have pointed to the spot. The referee pointed to the spot without any hesitation so he must have been convinced it was a penalty. As Dermot Gallagher said, from the refs angle it is a penalty from the camera behind the goal it paints a different picture. Would love to continue this debate but my wife and I are about to go out and not back until tomorrow.
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| chateauferret 23 Nov 17 1.43pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
The referee pointed to the spot without any hesitation so he must have been convinced it was a penalty. As Dermot Gallagher said, from the refs angle it is a penalty from the camera behind the goal it paints a different picture. Would love to continue this debate but my wife and I are about to go out and not back until tomorrow. You've proven right there exactly why the decision was *not* competent. He would have needed to take several seconds to be convinced it was a penalty so that's bollocks straight away. He blew up before Niasse even hit the ground FFS. Edited by chateauferret (23 Nov 2017 1.52pm)
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| Littlebogreek 23 Nov 17 1.58pm |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
You've proven right there exactly why the decision was *not* competent. He would have needed to take several seconds to be convinced it was a penalty so that's bollocks straight away. He blew up before Niasse even hit the ground FFS. Edited by chateauferret (23 Nov 2017 1.52pm) Made this point at the time that he had given the penalty before Niasse hit the floor. Literally gave himself no time to think at all which isn't smart in any situation. Interesting that Willo see's this as him doing his job better rather than worse, almost as if he has an agenda to deliberately annoy people.
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| chateauferret 23 Nov 17 2.00pm |
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Originally posted by Littlebogreek
Made this point at the time that he had given the penalty before Niasse hit the floor. Literally gave himself no time to think at all which isn't smart in any situation. Interesting that Willo see's this as him doing his job better rather than worse, almost as if he has an agenda to deliberately annoy people. Blown himself up with his own fart. Edited by chateauferret (23 Nov 2017 2.00pm)
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| Littlebogreek 23 Nov 17 2.01pm |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
Blown himself up with his own fart. Edited by chateauferret (23 Nov 2017 2.00pm) Sadly not for the first or last time.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Nov 17 2.44pm |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
Blown himself up with his own fart. Edited by chateauferret (23 Nov 2017 2.00pm) Dear me. The tone has really been lowered in this debate. Finally about to get in car and depart !
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| HeathMan Purley 23 Nov 17 3.14pm |
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The papers talk of a two match ban. Everton (no points deducted) and their next two opponents have benefitted; Palace suffering is still in force. The FA have not said which two matches and an Everton appeal will delay implementation of the ban. Two matches would ideally mean against next two Everton opponents and banned individually (whatever his team) for the next two against Palace matches for which he is fit (with deceptive injuries resulting in further FA sanction). I am not sure whether Croydon Market could provide sufficient ready to throw produce for any Selhurst Park stocks that might be installed. COYP
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| Shifty97 Croydon 23 Nov 17 8.42pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
The referee pointed to the spot without any hesitation so he must have been convinced it was a penalty. As Dermot Gallagher said, from the refs angle it is a penalty from the camera behind the goal it paints a different picture. Would love to continue this debate but my wife and I are about to go out and not back until tomorrow. If you really are trying to defend the referee, you aren't doing a good job
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