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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Aug 17 7.41pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I don't think you read what Wordup posted. These statues were not put up by the Confederate forces. They were put up as anti-abolition, anti equal rights symbols much more recently. They are disgraceful in their intent. They ARE a symbol of white supremacy, that is why they were erected. Edited by Mapletree (18 Aug 2017 7.17pm) It's fairly obvious that you don't read any of my posts properly.
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Stirlingsays 18 Aug 17 7.46pm | |
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Originally posted by Kodg
Really? So you're more offended by language, than offensive and overtly racist views? What a sad, deluded c*** you are. Edited by Kodg (18 Aug 2017 7.38pm) I'm not offended by the language at all. It's the language of where I am from. However, for a site not to descend into nothing but troglodytes swearing at each other it makes sense to censor swearing....not opinions, but swearing. It maps to the law in line with obscenity.
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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Aug 17 7.48pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Next they will be banning the singing of 'American Trilogy'. Then it will be looking to ban books with opinions they don't like. Then, mandatory 're-educational' programmes for opinions.....not to stop people hitting other people...but opinions. And that, as I have already suggested, is the crux of the matter. Where do you stop once you have started this s***?
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Kodg LDN 18 Aug 17 8.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm not offended by the language at all. It's the language of where I am from. However, for a site not to descend into nothing but troglodytes swearing at each other it makes sense to censor swearing....not opinions, but swearing. .
And yet your original post was to ask for me to apologise for my language. What a confused troll you are. But then you follow it up with the nonsensical, It maps to the law in line with obscenity Let me help you, cupcake, maybe employ a little less psedo-crypto bollocks and you might save yourself from looking like a total f***ing w***er Oh, btw darling, misuse of troglodytes - thicko
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Stirlingsays 18 Aug 17 8.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Kodg
And yet your original post was to ask for me to apologise for my language. What a confused troll you are. But then you follow it up with the nonsensical, It maps to the law in line with obscenity Let me help you, cupcake, maybe employ a little less psedo-crypto bollocks and you might save yourself from looking like a total f***ing w***er Oh, btw darling, misuse of troglodytes - thicko So that's two c***s and a w***er and this clown is still here. So is it open season now on Hol?....I get to start calling this clown what I think of him? Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Aug 2017 8.06pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Aug 17 8.18pm | |
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Originally posted by Kodg
And yet your original post was to ask for me to apologise for my language. What a confused troll you are. But then you follow it up with the nonsensical, It maps to the law in line with obscenity Let me help you, cupcake, maybe employ a little less psedo-crypto bollocks and you might save yourself from looking like a total f***ing w***er Oh, btw darling, misuse of troglodytes - thicko No one is denying that the South doesn't have more than its fair share of bigoted, redneck half wits, but there is more to this story than just why people put up the statues. It's about the principles involved in decision making of this type and what that might lead to. You ain't going to have your opinion taken seriously on here if you just call people c***s when you disagree with them.
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Ketteridge Brighton 18 Aug 17 8.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Do you have to be Irish or a monarchist then to take exception to a statue of Cromwell? I don't intend to divert from the thread either. I just wanted to answer that particular point. The reality is that all statues will have supporters and detractors. It should be about the local opinion around it.
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.TUX. 18 Aug 17 8.27pm | |
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Bloody amazing how quickly last weeks WW3 is put on the back-burner.
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Stirlingsays 18 Aug 17 8.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Ketteridge
I would also expect guidance and leadership from higher levels to ensure that decisions fitted with a national mood. Well, while it isn't for you to say what other people's extent of feeling is about historical figures ..... I certainly agreed with most of your post up until this sentence. You don't allow people the say in what statues or monuments exist in their area and then write that. The south contained many armies and their relatives live within these towns. You don't get to decide how people feel about their past and frame it into simple good/bad ideologies because some people feel like that. If the local area want these things they have them, if they don't, they don't....like you said first.....No higher up 'guidance'. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Aug 2017 8.30pm)
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Stirlingsays 18 Aug 17 8.43pm | |
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Originally posted by Ketteridge
I would also expect guidance and leadership from higher levels to ensure that decisions fitted with a national mood. Also, if this area were to have to fit in and take 'the national mood' into account then the statue would have to be remade and put back because as the polling data shows the 'national mood' isn't with taking these statues down. I hold with the view that it should be for local areas to get to decide.
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Mapletree Croydon 18 Aug 17 10.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The pyramids were built by slaves...no doubt many of them died in horrible enforced conditions.....shall they be pulled down?....well blown up because that's the only way that could be done. Shall we tear down everything built a hundred years ago by people with views you didn't like.....at least we will be creating jobs in the construction industry. Shall we ban Michael Jackson's music because you know....he had to pay off those boy's families. Careful you don't laugh at a Crosby joke....we will need to re-educate you. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Aug 2017 8.02pm) Come on Stirling. Very poor comparison. These statues were put up specifically to assert the right for white people to have power over black people. The pyramids were built for rather different reasons. Jackson did not write his music in a direct provocation in order to offend. If I find it offensive that is merely in the eye of the beholder. Not up to you usual standards, been a long week?
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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Aug 17 10.18pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Come on Stirling. Very poor comparison. These statues were put up specifically to assert the right for white people to have power over black people. The pyramids were built for rather different reasons. Jackson did not write his music in a direct provocation in order to offend. If I find it offensive that is merely in the eye of the beholder. Not up to you usual standards, been a long week? No one knows what the Pyramids were built for. And all offence is in the eye of the beholder.
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