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 Goldfiinger  Just down the road 02 Mar 18 10.07pm |
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Originally posted by alaneagle1
Bolasie wanted to go.Sold him for good money and purchased Tomkins,Townsend And Benteke. Townsend was bought from Newcastle in exchange for Gayle and £3m. Good management IMO
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| Goldfiinger Just down the road 02 Mar 18 10.09pm |
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
Roy does what - Know good business do you mean? Who knows how far he was even consulted regarding the latest transfers Well the Sørloth transfer has Roys finger prints all over it. I believe he even said he pushed for it...
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| chris123 hove actually 03 Mar 18 5.58am |
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
Roy does what - Know good business do you mean? Who knows how far he was even consulted regarding the latest transfers Sorry, Roy clearly knows we did not do good business during the window - from interviews during and then after - when to me he looked thoroughly underwhelmed.
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| braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 03 Mar 18 11.14am |
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Originally posted by TheExpatEagle
I'm baffled why so many people are crediting Parish for spending money on Benteke when he sold Bolasie to fund it. It's not like he dug deep to find the money. The PL pays us over £80m a year and the summer we signed Benteke we spent £11m net on transfers. the PL give us £80m a year...its not a lot & basic maths tell us pretty much all of it goes on player wages. thats why we have to balance the books somehow. in PL terms we are a small club with comparitivly a tiny income the last 3 transfer windows have all been reactive rather than proactive signings & untill we get a long term manager in place i cant see this changing. we seem to be (just about) in a sustainable situation whilst we remain the the top flight, but we really do need to turn the dial back somewhat and use academy players in the squad rather than players earning in excess of 50k a week to warm the bench.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 03 Mar 18 11.58am |
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Originally posted by braunstoneagle
the PL give us £80m a year...its not a lot & basic maths tell us pretty much all of it goes on player wages. thats why we have to balance the books somehow. in PL terms we are a small club with comparitivly a tiny income the last 3 transfer windows have all been reactive rather than proactive signings & untill we get a long term manager in place i cant see this changing. we seem to be (just about) in a sustainable situation whilst we remain the the top flight, but we really do need to turn the dial back somewhat and use academy players in the squad rather than players earning in excess of 50k a week to warm the bench.
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| johnmcormick8 Brundish 03 Mar 18 1.06pm |
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aye Originally posted by braunstoneagle
the PL give us £80m a year...its not a lot & basic maths tell us pretty much all of it goes on player wages. thats why we have to balance the books somehow. in PL terms we are a small club with comparitivly a tiny income the last 3 transfer windows have all been reactive rather than proactive signings & untill we get a long term manager in place i cant see this changing. we seem to be (just about) in a sustainable situation whilst we remain the the top flight, but we really do need to turn the dial back somewhat and use academy players in the squad rather than players earning in excess of 50k a week to warm the bench.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 03 Mar 18 1.15pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Producing one Wilf standard player a season is unrealistic. When has any club ever done that in recent times? One obvious answer is better scouting. The Palace scouting outside of the prem and championship has been almost non existent until recently. Until recently we only signed Souare and Luca who've never played in England and I bet Pardew got wind of Souare while at Newcastle. We weren't sure enough on Rincon or Tosun. Whether they will or would've come good isn't really the point. We dipped our toes in not being very sure and closed the door. It's damaging to English players but inevitable without rules to prevent this being advantageous. Incidentally with a grade B academy training at goals (and the local fools objecting to larger field of training pitches which may result in more housing) I don't see a conveyor belt of talent being developed any time soon.
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| braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 03 Mar 18 1.42pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Producing one Wilf standard player a season is unrealistic. When has any club ever done that in recent times? One obvious answer is better scouting. The Palace scouting outside of the prem and championship has been almost non existent until recently. Until recently we only signed Souare and Luca who've never played in England and I bet Pardew got wind of Souare while at Newcastle. We weren't sure enough on Rincon or Tosun. Whether they will or would've come good isn't really the point. We dipped our toes in not being very sure and closed the door. It's damaging to English players but inevitable without rules to prevent this being advantageous. Incidentally with a grade B academy training at goals (and the local fools objecting to larger field of training pitches which may result in more housing) I don't see a conveyor belt of talent being developed any time soon. of course its unrealistic, though what i dont feel is unrealistic is being able to produce players able of having a similar impact as squad players that could do the jobs of chungy / sako / much / pva / schlupp on 10% of the wages with no fee.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 03 Mar 18 2.00pm |
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Originally posted by braunstoneagle
of course its unrealistic, though what i dont feel is unrealistic is being able to produce players able of having a similar impact as squad players that could do the jobs of chungy / sako / much / pva / schlupp on 10% of the wages with no fee. Of course, because 2 of those offer nothing. Full back is not a bad position for someone to be under less pressure.
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| Aray South London 03 Mar 18 2.32pm |
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Originally posted by TheExpatEagle
Sold Bolasie to fund the Benteke transfer. We're only a 'non-selling' club because of the money around and that Parish isn't on his own, which previous chairmen are. And he is still trying his best to cock it up. Talk about revising history. Everyone - well almost everyone thought we got top dollar for Yala. And he wanted to go. We needed a proper striker and we got one - he's since forgotten how to do that but that is another thread. And as for the rest of this nonsense. The only reason we're not a selling club is because the chairman and owners are trying to build it up rather than earn as much dosh as poss. Plenty of clubs have tried to get Wilf. And the fact that the chairman isn't on his own is because of the consortium he was part of that purchased the club. You're not being entirely logical - are you?
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| braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 03 Mar 18 2.43pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Of course, because 2 of those offer nothing. Full back is not a bad position for someone to be under less pressure. my point being i bet those 5 players earn over £10m a year combined. thats a shed load of cash that could be put to better use elsewhere in the operation
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| ex hibitionist Hastings 03 Mar 18 5.01pm |
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there have been mistakes ,but you have to put things into context. The last top flight season we went through without having been a genuine relegation candidate at some point was 1991-92. We've spent proper money - esp last Jan, managers have been backed by SP - we've got an unbalanced squad with some sick notes, flops and prima donnas on too high wages, and we're not improving raw talent enough - but we're in the prem for a record fifth season with a stadium improvement which will transform the club and have a manager who has managed England, Liverpool and Inter - expectations have been raised and Parrish needs to change our model from fire-fighting to building, but any criticism he gets must be tempered with the achievements he has made so far and the investment which has come in, which has been massive by our usual standards - look at Ipswich, Hull, Sunderland ... things could be a lot worse. I don't think we'll go down, but I reckon Roy will stay if we do and he'll turn us into a lean machine post Zaha (hopefully he can do that in the prem) - and that is a serious consideration - because we are not a good side without him.
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