That's the difference. Pardew and pulls came into teams who were fighting and had spirit and gave them a system that worked to enable their performances to match the spirit they had.

Sam has come in to a situation where all spirit has been drained so has to find both a system that works and build up spirit. A far harder task.

Braunston- you won't answer why you have pardew so long but not Sam?

Too right. He is a real PITA and I see red even tho he never seems to whatever he does!

Always remembering walking from the Holmesdale to the Whitehorse end at half time!

Administrations aside, not sure I can remember us being in such a bad position. Yes, we've fought off relegation in the Championship but we had players who were playing for the shirt and some team spirit but this mob we've got now?!

Thank f*ck it was only the cup but another thumping and not scoring again, adds another nail in our lack of confidence / belief coffin. Can't see us turning things around by Tues evening either!

I reckon Sam is sh*tting himself at the min, thinking how on earth did I end up here! Haha

sorry but thats just not true, i said all along i didnt mind if pardew was sacked but he had to be replaced with a better manager, something that sam wasnt & has shown he isnt.

all this standard speil being spouted about pardew sucked the spirit & fight out of the players simply isnt true either

we were competing and looking like a decent team in every game, even if results wernt showing it. we did have fight & spirit we were losing concentration and comceding goals at critical times...something we are still doing.

if anything sam has sucked the spirit & fight out of the team, all during a time he was meant to be having the new manager effect.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

Fat Sam just confirmed hamstring faces some time out.

That's all we need.

By way of today's game, City's midfield & attack simply gave masterclass performance to Palace.