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cpj Flag Kent 25 Jan 17 11.34pm Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

I don't recall Speroni ever making "endless mistakes",especially last season when I don't think he played any league games.

He meant the season before.

 

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cpj Flag Kent 26 Jan 17 9.18am Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Hennessey has played approaching thirty league games over the last year of which we have won three. He's left countless question marks against his performances during this same period.

We've picked up three wins with Mandanda in eight league games.

Jury's still out with Mandanda but Hennessey's had his chance.

You are surely not blaming WH for our poor win record over the last year? If you want to compare stats for this season, WH averages 3.1 saves per games and concedes 1.84 goals per games; SM averages 2.64 saves per game and concedes 1.88 goals. And before anyone starts saying that Speroni is better, just remember that he hasn't had a clean sheet in any of his last 14 league games.

To be honest, none of the keepers is perfect - they all have their pros and cons. Speroni is the best instinctive shot-stopper from close range, but his back-spin kicking is poor, he gets beaten too easily from distance, doesn't dominate his area and his penalty record is woeful. Hennessey is the best for dominating his area and his kicking is good, but he's worse at free-kick positioning, can be slow getting down to low shots and he hasn't got near a penalty yet either. From what I've seen of Mandanda he doesn't dominate his area and his quick distribution caused several problems with players not expecting the ball.

 

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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 26 Jan 17 9.36am Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by cpj

You are surely not blaming WH for our poor win record over the last year? If you want to compare stats for this season, WH averages 3.1 saves per games and concedes 1.84 goals per games; SM averages 2.64 saves per game and concedes 1.88 goals. And before anyone starts saying that Speroni is better, just remember that he hasn't had a clean sheet in any of his last 14 league games.

To be honest, none of the keepers is perfect - they all have their pros and cons. Speroni is the best instinctive shot-stopper from close range, but his back-spin kicking is poor, he gets beaten too easily from distance, doesn't dominate his area and his penalty record is woeful. Hennessey is the best for dominating his area and his kicking is good, but he's worse at free-kick positioning, can be slow getting down to low shots and he hasn't got near a penalty yet either. From what I've seen of Mandanda he doesn't dominate his area and his quick distribution caused several problems with players not expecting the ball.

Sorry but Hennessey never dominates his area at all.....Rarely comes for crosses and for a tall man never looks confident catching high balls

 

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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 26 Jan 17 9.36am Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by srh

That's a laughable comment. Only a fool would suggest Hennessy and Mandanda are the same standard.

Edited by srh (25 Jan 2017 9.44pm)

Only a fool would pass judgement on Mandanda either way.

 


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cpj Flag Kent 26 Jan 17 10.05am Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

Sorry but Hennessey never dominates his area at all.....Rarely comes for crosses and for a tall man never looks confident catching high balls

Have you actually seen any games? Hennessey often comes for crosses and takes them cleanly. Sometimes he stays back - depends on whether he thinks he can get there or not, same as any keeper.

 

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paperhat Flag croydon 26 Jan 17 10.06am Send a Private Message to paperhat Add paperhat as a friend

Originally posted by cpj

Have you actually seen any games? Hennessey often comes for crosses and takes them cleanly. Sometimes he stays back - depends on whether he thinks he can get there or not, same as any keeper.

At corners, he rarely comes out and touches anything, let alone catch it. He's glued to his line most times behind a phalanx of scared defenders.

 


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cpj Flag Kent 26 Jan 17 10.20am Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Originally posted by paperhat

At corners, he rarely comes out and touches anything, let alone catch it. He's glued to his line most times behind a phalanx of scared defenders.

You can't have been there on Saturday then.

 

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paperhat Flag croydon 26 Jan 17 11.35am Send a Private Message to paperhat Add paperhat as a friend

Originally posted by cpj

You can't have been there on Saturday then.

actually i was. I saw him make several saves (he's a goalkeeper, clap clap) and also saw him make several heart in mouth spills to. As I say, rarely does the man come out to dominate his 6 yd box at corners, nor does he dominate at said set pieces. Although one of his better games, Saturday was no different.

 


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cpj Flag Kent 26 Jan 17 12.09pm Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Originally posted by paperhat

actually i was. I saw him make several saves (he's a goalkeeper, clap clap) and also saw him make several heart in mouth spills to. As I say, rarely does the man come out to dominate his 6 yd box at corners, nor does he dominate at said set pieces. Although one of his better games, Saturday was no different.

The spills were from low down shots. He took cleanly all the crosses he came for. Made a European team of the week - but, hey, you don't rate him so what does a good performance matter?

 

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OhthisbloodyPC Flag 26 Jan 17 12.15pm

I must say I think Hennessy is under rated.

He's an international. A great shot stopper. And he's huge.

The players seem to like him too.

His biggest mistake is he's not Julian Speroni. I don't think that's his fault.

 

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paperhat Flag croydon 26 Jan 17 12.19pm Send a Private Message to paperhat Add paperhat as a friend

Originally posted by cpj

The spills were from low down shots. He took cleanly all the crosses he came for. Made a European team of the week - but, hey, you don't rate him so what does a good performance matter?

as i said in my post, it was one of his better games but no, I don't rate him. Too frequently he makes the wrong decisions either costing the team goals or at worst leaving them unsettled. I couldn't care less whether he spills something low down or high up, he's still spilling it rather than keeping hold of it. One italian paper puts him in the team of the week but no UK sports article did - who's right/wrong there then?

taking ALL the crosses he came for is all a bit subjective. If he only came for one, what did he do with the rest?

 


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Mo Sizlak Flag 26 Jan 17 12.25pm

He's not perfect - we can't afford one of those but he's the best we've got.
The Speroni groupies have to get used to that.

 


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