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legaleagle 14 Mar 15 9.07pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 14 Mar 2015 6.26pm Quote legaleagle at 14 Mar 2015 5.11pm Quote Stirlingsays at 14 Mar 2015 1.41pm Quote imbored at 14 Mar 2015 11.19am How are we to describe those professionally offended by Russell Brand's silliness? That got even more front pages than this. Granted he doesn't bring as much money in, but if we only judge our morality by that, it's a sorry state. I'm happy with this state. The BBC ditching its biggest money maker is stupidity that only the left could undertake....Morality my foot, this is the real world. Like I say the foolish need to be stopped from providing fuel to the ending of the license fee. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Mar 2015 1.47pm) Quite right.Heaven forbid the day when employers sack someone (regardless of their value to a company) for punching another employee in the face for no good reason.These lefties really haven't got a clue Once upon a time, men were men and could take the rough with the smooth......Now they sack people over bruises......Let's hope this country never needs conscription again for any real fighting...God forbid how embarrassing it would be. Employee of the month award for the person who can have the most tantrums and punch the most fellow employees in the face for no good reason,eh?.The true essence of all that could be good about Britain in action,as you'd see it no doubt, overlooking the fact that the whole ethos of the armed forces is meant to be about being disciplined and controlling the urge for individual random violence.Soldier of the month award for most frequently randomly having a tantrum and punching the NCO in the face? Edited by legaleagle (14 Mar 2015 9.12pm)
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How are we to describe those professionally offended by Russell Brand's silliness? That got even more front pages than this. Granted he doesn't bring as much money in, but if we only judge our morality by that, it's a sorry state.

I'm happy with this state.

The BBC ditching its biggest money maker is stupidity that only the left could undertake....Morality my foot, this is the real world.

Like I say the foolish need to be stopped from providing fuel to the ending of the license fee.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Mar 2015 1.47pm)

Quite right.Heaven forbid the day when employers sack someone (regardless of their value to a company) for punching another employee in the face for no good reason.These lefties really haven't got a clue

Once upon a time, men were men and could take the rough with the smooth......Now they sack people over bruises......Let's hope this country never needs conscription again for any real fighting...God forbid how embarrassing it would be.

Employee of the month award for the person who can have the most tantrums and punch the most fellow employees in the face for no good reason,eh?.The true essence of all that could be good about Britain in action,as you'd see it no doubt, overlooking the fact that the whole ethos of the armed forces is meant to be about being disciplined and controlling the urge for individual random violence.Soldier of the month award for most frequently randomly having a tantrum and punching the NCO in the face?

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Stirlingsays 14 Mar 15 10.23pm
Quote imbored at 14 Mar 2015 6.50pm I think it's more political than that from both sides, the beeb and the rest of the press. Do we not recall how people worked themselves into a frenzy over Russell Brand making an ill advised phone call? Is that worse than putting someone in hospital? No-one seemed to mind people being offended back then. The bloke lost his job. Edited by imbored (14 Mar 2015 6.53pm) Yup, you're right. Personally I regarded the genuine apologies given by Brand and Ross perfectly adequate and they should have been accepted by the Beeb. It's the usual overly hysterical reaction by all the press trying to sell copy in their particular media. I'm not too fond of the hang em and flog em brigade who in reality are bringing out their swords because they never particularly liked the victims in the first place. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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I think it's more political than that from both sides, the beeb and the rest of the press. Do we not recall how people worked themselves into a frenzy over Russell Brand making an ill advised phone call? Is that worse than putting someone in hospital? No-one seemed to mind people being offended back then. The bloke lost his job.

Edited by imbored (14 Mar 2015 6.53pm)

Yup, you're right.

Personally I regarded the genuine apologies given by Brand and Ross perfectly adequate and they should have been accepted by the Beeb.

It's the usual overly hysterical reaction by all the press trying to sell copy in their particular media.

I'm not too fond of the hang em and flog em brigade who in reality are bringing out their swords because they never particularly liked the victims in the first place.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 14 Mar 15 10.31pm
Quote legaleagle at 14 Mar 2015 9.07pm Employee of the month award for the person who can have the most tantrums and punch the most fellow employees in the face for no good reason,eh?.The true essence of all that could be good about Britain in action,as you'd see it no doubt, overlooking the fact that the whole ethos of the armed forces is meant to be about being disciplined and controlling the urge for individual random violence.Soldier of the month award for most frequently randomly having a tantrum and punching the NCO in the face? Edited by legaleagle (14 Mar 2015 9.12pm) Duke of Wellington 'I don't know what effect these men will have upon the enemy, but, by God, they frighten me.' Legal, this was a private argument within a team.....In the army I can tell you that rough and tumble happens all the bloody time. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Duke of Wellington

'I don't know what effect these men will have upon the enemy, but, by God, they frighten me.'

Legal, this was a private argument within a team.....In the army I can tell you that rough and tumble happens all the bloody time.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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legaleagle 15 Mar 15 12.09am
Indeed.I had a case about deaths of squaddies resulting from bullying and the ensuing cover up allegations. My uncle got sent off to the "forgotten" theatre of war in Burma because he punched an NCO in the face and knocked him out after the NCO had aimed a gratuitous anti-semitic insult at him on parade.Now that was a justified instance of punching someone in the face in the workplace! Could hardly have had a court martial because of the embarrassment when that was one of the things we were meant to be fighting against,so they shipped him off to the worst place possible a long way away to cover it up. But,we're getting way off topic.I think its not appropriate for people within a workplace team to punch a colleague in the face for no decent reason and that if they do,the employer should treat it very seriously,particularly if the employee is already on a "final warning" generally,regardless of whether its in a "normal" place of work or involving a TV celebrity.It may be we differ. Edited by legaleagle (15 Mar 2015 12.28am)
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Indeed.I had a case about deaths of squaddies resulting from bullying and the ensuing cover up allegations.

My uncle got sent off to the "forgotten" theatre of war in Burma because he punched an NCO in the face and knocked him out after the NCO had aimed a gratuitous anti-semitic insult at him on parade.Now that was a justified instance of punching someone in the face in the workplace! Could hardly have had a court martial because of the embarrassment when that was one of the things we were meant to be fighting against,so they shipped him off to the worst place possible a long way away to cover it up.

But,we're getting way off topic.I think its not appropriate for people within a workplace team to punch a colleague in the face for no decent reason and that if they do,the employer should treat it very seriously,particularly if the employee is already on a "final warning" generally,regardless of whether its in a "normal" place of work or involving a TV celebrity.It may be we differ.

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Seth On a pale blue dot 15 Mar 15 12.40am
Quote Stirlingsays at 14 Mar 2015 6.26pm Quote Ian J at 14 Mar 2015 6.23pm Quote legaleagle at 14 Mar 2015 5.11pm Heaven forbid the day when employers sack someone (regardless of their value to a company) for punching another employee in the face for no good reason.These lefties really haven't got a clue But surely he had good reason as he was hungry and there was no hot dindins waiting for him. Isn't that a good enough excuse to physically assault a colleague? Yes.....This country is full of bleeding wimps. They're only bleeding because Jeremy Clarkson keeps punching them. "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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On a pale blue dot 15 Mar 15 12.40am

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Heaven forbid the day when employers sack someone (regardless of their value to a company) for punching another employee in the face for no good reason.These lefties really haven't got a clue

But surely he had good reason as he was hungry and there was no hot dindins waiting for him. Isn't that a good enough excuse to physically assault a colleague?

Yes.....This country is full of bleeding wimps.

They're only bleeding because Jeremy Clarkson keeps punching them.

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Midlands Eagle 15 Mar 15 7.35am
Perhaps the BBC should consider making Clarkson go on an anger management course as a bit of a face saving exercise
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imbored UK 15 Mar 15 8.20am
Quote Ian J at 15 Mar 2015 7.35am Perhaps the BBC should consider making Clarkson go on an anger management course as a bit of a face saving exercise They should hit him. That's how men solve their problems. A dust up followed by a cuban cigar.
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Quote Ian J at 15 Mar 2015 7.35am

Perhaps the BBC should consider making Clarkson go on an anger management course as a bit of a face saving exercise

They should hit him. That's how men solve their problems. A dust up followed by a cuban cigar.

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Stirlingsays 15 Mar 15 8.41am
Quote legaleagle at 15 Mar 2015 12.09am Indeed.I had a case about deaths of squaddies resulting from bullying and the ensuing cover up allegations. My uncle got sent off to the "forgotten" theatre of war in Burma because he punched an NCO in the face and knocked him out after the NCO had aimed a gratuitous anti-semitic insult at him on parade.Now that was a justified instance of punching someone in the face in the workplace! Could hardly have had a court martial because of the embarrassment when that was one of the things we were meant to be fighting against,so they shipped him off to the worst place possible a long way away to cover it up. But,we're getting way off topic.I think its not appropriate for people within a workplace team to punch a colleague in the face for no decent reason and that if they do,the employer should treat it very seriously,particularly if the employee is already on a "final warning" generally,regardless of whether its in a "normal" place of work or involving a TV celebrity.It may be we differ. Edited by legaleagle (15 Mar 2015 12.28am) No, I agree it's out of order. I just see the wider picture here...And that's it's being made into too big a deal.....Well, like 'bored' said....Maybe none of us are getting the real motivations here and maybe Clarkson's had enough. If it ends badly I see fuel being given to the 'anti BBC' commentators and that element of the Tory party that views the license fee as a tool for lefty social engineering. I want to protect the BBC and I also think the Top Gear audience deserve a celebratory conclusion to what the show has become rather than this negative mess. Like I said, there should be a private agreement on a 'changing of the guard' in one or two years time.....That way things can be properly and nicely concluded on what has been a great success......With no pissed off viewers. I hope sensible heads prevail. Or someone should punch them in the mouth. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Mar 2015 8.42am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote legaleagle at 15 Mar 2015 12.09am

Indeed.I had a case about deaths of squaddies resulting from bullying and the ensuing cover up allegations.

Edited by legaleagle (15 Mar 2015 12.28am)

No, I agree it's out of order.

I just see the wider picture here...And that's it's being made into too big a deal.....Well, like 'bored' said....Maybe none of us are getting the real motivations here and maybe Clarkson's had enough.

If it ends badly I see fuel being given to the 'anti BBC' commentators and that element of the Tory party that views the license fee as a tool for lefty social engineering.

I want to protect the BBC and I also think the Top Gear audience deserve a celebratory conclusion to what the show has become rather than this negative mess.

Like I said, there should be a private agreement on a 'changing of the guard' in one or two years time.....That way things can be properly and nicely concluded on what has been a great success......With no pissed off viewers.

I hope sensible heads prevail.

Or someone should punch them in the mouth.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Mar 2015 8.42am)

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legaleagle 15 Mar 15 11.47am
The"wider" picture you paint is just people manipulating the situation for agendas,as you say,whether because of politics or money.Whereas,for me, it should just be treated the same as any other workplace,not differently because he's a celebrity.So for me the "wider" picture is that if he's treated differently because of who he is, it just sends a bad signal out that punching people in the workplace for no good reason can be an acceptable form of behaviour.Just like if the manager in the ordinary workplace could get away with it,but the ordinary worker would be sacked. Edited by legaleagle (15 Mar 2015 11.49am)
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The"wider" picture you paint is just people manipulating the situation for agendas,as you say,whether because of politics or money.Whereas,for me, it should just be treated the same as any other workplace,not differently because he's a celebrity.So for me the "wider" picture is that if he's treated differently because of who he is, it just sends a bad signal out that punching people in the workplace for no good reason can be an acceptable form of behaviour.Just like if the manager in the ordinary workplace could get away with it,but the ordinary worker would be sacked.

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Stirlingsays 15 Mar 15 5.38pm
Quote legaleagle at 15 Mar 2015 11.47am The"wider" picture you paint is just people manipulating the situation for agendas,as you say,whether because of politics or money.Whereas,for me, it should just be treated the same as any other workplace,not differently because he's a celebrity.So for me the "wider" picture is that if he's treated differently because of who he is, it just sends a bad signal out that punching people in the workplace for no good reason can be an acceptable form of behaviour.Just like if the manager in the ordinary workplace could get away with it,but the ordinary worker would be sacked. Edited by legaleagle (15 Mar 2015 11.49am) Yeah because no one gets treated differently in the workplace do they legal. All the rules get applied the same to everyone.....Like feck they do. I'm not one who believes celebrities have to be standard carriers for society. This should blow over and the BBC should arrange for a sensible transition for the show that pleases its fans. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Yeah because no one gets treated differently in the workplace do they legal.

All the rules get applied the same to everyone.....Like feck they do.

I'm not one who believes celebrities have to be standard carriers for society.

This should blow over and the BBC should arrange for a sensible transition for the show that pleases its fans.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Dweeb East London 15 Mar 15 6.17pm
1. Assault is assualt in the workplace or anywhere else. 2. Why do so many people think it's OK to hit anyone just because the person seems to know about cars. Would they take that from a mechanic at their local garage or at a roadside? 3. Just because you are a friend of the Prime Minister doesn't mean you get special treatment 4. If Clarkson wants to move on let him, the BBC has been around since 1922; Top Gear 1977 & Clarkson since 1988 so how important is he? Taking the bungy jump since 1964. Never to see John Jackson in a shirt again Sorry to see Lee Hills go, did we ever see Alex Marrow? We did January 2013
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1. Assault is assualt in the workplace or anywhere else.
2. Why do so many people think it's OK to hit anyone just because the person seems to know about cars. Would they take that from a mechanic at their local garage or at a roadside?
3. Just because you are a friend of the Prime Minister doesn't mean you get special treatment
4. If Clarkson wants to move on let him, the BBC has been around since 1922; Top Gear 1977 & Clarkson since 1988 so how important is he?

Taking the bungy jump since 1964. Never to see John Jackson in a shirt again

Sorry to see Lee Hills go, did we ever see Alex Marrow? We did January 2013

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TUX redhill 15 Mar 15 8.08pm
Quote legaleagle at 15 Mar 2015 11.47am The"wider" picture you paint is just people manipulating the situation for agendas,as you say,whether because of politics or money.Whereas,for me, it should just be treated the same as any other workplace,not differently because he's a celebrity.So for me the "wider" picture is that if he's treated differently because of who he is, it just sends a bad signal out that punching people in the workplace for no good reason can be an acceptable form of behaviour.Just like if the manager in the ordinary workplace could get away with it,but the ordinary worker would be sacked. Edited by legaleagle (15 Mar 2015 11.49am) Who's to say there was ''no good reason'' when every one of us has a different level of tolerance? Just like me, you weren't there and don't really know the full facts but from what I gather, nobody died.
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Quote legaleagle at 15 Mar 2015 11.47am

The"wider" picture you paint is just people manipulating the situation for agendas,as you say,whether because of politics or money.Whereas,for me, it should just be treated the same as any other workplace,not differently because he's a celebrity.So for me the "wider" picture is that if he's treated differently because of who he is, it just sends a bad signal out that punching people in the workplace for no good reason can be an acceptable form of behaviour.Just like if the manager in the ordinary workplace could get away with it,but the ordinary worker would be sacked.

Edited by legaleagle (15 Mar 2015 11.49am)

Who's to say there was ''no good reason'' when every one of us has a different level of tolerance?
Just like me, you weren't there and don't really know the full facts but from what I gather, nobody died.

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