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 elgrande  bedford 26 Nov 14 5.33pm |
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So I have worked hard all my life,managed to keep a roof over my head,clothe and feed 4 children,seen them grow up to be good members of our society(all working and paying their taxes).
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| elgrande bedford 26 Nov 14 5.34pm |
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Quote ghosteagle at 26 Nov 2014 5.26pm
Quote Stuk at 26 Nov 2014 4.50pm
Why are you lot even trying to debate the notion of abolishing private property, when just three words are needed. Don't be daft.
People too greedy.
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| ghosteagle 26 Nov 14 5.37pm |
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Quote Johnny Eagles at 26 Nov 2014 3.17pm
Needless to say, I simply don't accept the premise that private property is based on "oppression, theft or murder". Maybe in the 11th century, but today? Don't be daft. On the contrary, private property is one of the biggest guarantors of freedom we have. Certainly more robust than the flimsy protections provided by a universal suffrage democracy and representative government. Abolish private property and you have two options: 1. Anarchy. During periods of which oppression, theft and murder tend to thrive. 2. Some kind of collective organisation running things "on behalf of" individuals. Again, the historical precedents of this aren't good. You realise that number two is the form of government we currently have right???
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Johnny Eagles  berlin 26 Nov 14 8.52pm |
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Quote ghosteagle at 26 Nov 2014 5.37pm
Quote Johnny Eagles at 26 Nov 2014 3.17pm
Needless to say, I simply don't accept the premise that private property is based on "oppression, theft or murder". Maybe in the 11th century, but today? Don't be daft. On the contrary, private property is one of the biggest guarantors of freedom we have. Certainly more robust than the flimsy protections provided by a universal suffrage democracy and representative government. Abolish private property and you have two options: 1. Anarchy. During periods of which oppression, theft and murder tend to thrive. 2. Some kind of collective organisation running things "on behalf of" individuals. Again, the historical precedents of this aren't good. You realise that number two is the form of government we currently have right??? Ha ha, fair point. Depending on how you interpret "collective". I honestly think you're all completely bonkers wanting to abolish property. Quickest possible way to murderous tyranny there is!
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| matt_himself Matataland 26 Nov 14 10.57pm |
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Quote Johnny Eagles at 26 Nov 2014 8.52pm
Quote ghosteagle at 26 Nov 2014 5.37pm
Quote Johnny Eagles at 26 Nov 2014 3.17pm
Needless to say, I simply don't accept the premise that private property is based on "oppression, theft or murder". Maybe in the 11th century, but today? Don't be daft. On the contrary, private property is one of the biggest guarantors of freedom we have. Certainly more robust than the flimsy protections provided by a universal suffrage democracy and representative government. Abolish private property and you have two options: 1. Anarchy. During periods of which oppression, theft and murder tend to thrive. 2. Some kind of collective organisation running things "on behalf of" individuals. Again, the historical precedents of this aren't good. You realise that number two is the form of government we currently have right??? Ha ha, fair point. Depending on how you interpret "collective". I honestly think you're all completely bonkers wanting to abolish property. Quickest possible way to murderous tyranny there is! One massive blocker for me is that the Kumar Rouge declared private property illegal. That didn't end up well. The largest genocide in history. However, it will probably be deemed 'progressive' by the sorts who think that a caliphate under ISIS is 'progressive'. Misguided fools.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 26 Nov 14 11.36pm |
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Edited by nickgusset (26 Nov 2014 11.38pm)
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| matt_himself Matataland 26 Nov 14 11.45pm |
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Revolution:
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 27 Nov 14 12.05am |
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That Cock Brand was on the Wendy Williams show this morning *Super knockers Wendy*
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| NickinOX Sailing country. 27 Nov 14 12.41am |
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Quote matt_himself at 26 Nov 2014 10.57pm
Quote Johnny Eagles at 26 Nov 2014 8.52pm
Quote ghosteagle at 26 Nov 2014 5.37pm
Quote Johnny Eagles at 26 Nov 2014 3.17pm
Needless to say, I simply don't accept the premise that private property is based on "oppression, theft or murder". Maybe in the 11th century, but today? Don't be daft. On the contrary, private property is one of the biggest guarantors of freedom we have. Certainly more robust than the flimsy protections provided by a universal suffrage democracy and representative government. Abolish private property and you have two options: 1. Anarchy. During periods of which oppression, theft and murder tend to thrive. 2. Some kind of collective organisation running things "on behalf of" individuals. Again, the historical precedents of this aren't good. You realise that number two is the form of government we currently have right??? Ha ha, fair point. Depending on how you interpret "collective". I honestly think you're all completely bonkers wanting to abolish property. Quickest possible way to murderous tyranny there is! One massive blocker for me is that the Kumar Rouge declared private property illegal. That didn't end up well. The largest genocide in history. However, it will probably be deemed 'progressive' by the sorts who think that a caliphate under ISIS is 'progressive'. Misguided fools. Apart from the Holomodor, the Great Leap Forward, the Holocaust, etc. Mind you, you do have a point as many were committed by socialist governments (including some nationalist ones). The good of the many...
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| matt_himself Matataland 27 Nov 14 12.48am |
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Quote NickinOX at 27 Nov 2014 12.41am
Quote matt_himself at 26 Nov 2014 10.57pm
Quote Johnny Eagles at 26 Nov 2014 8.52pm
Quote ghosteagle at 26 Nov 2014 5.37pm
Quote Johnny Eagles at 26 Nov 2014 3.17pm
Needless to say, I simply don't accept the premise that private property is based on "oppression, theft or murder". Maybe in the 11th century, but today? Don't be daft. On the contrary, private property is one of the biggest guarantors of freedom we have. Certainly more robust than the flimsy protections provided by a universal suffrage democracy and representative government. Abolish private property and you have two options: 1. Anarchy. During periods of which oppression, theft and murder tend to thrive. 2. Some kind of collective organisation running things "on behalf of" individuals. Again, the historical precedents of this aren't good. You realise that number two is the form of government we currently have right??? Ha ha, fair point. Depending on how you interpret "collective". I honestly think you're all completely bonkers wanting to abolish property. Quickest possible way to murderous tyranny there is! One massive blocker for me is that the Kumar Rouge declared private property illegal. That didn't end up well. The largest genocide in history. However, it will probably be deemed 'progressive' by the sorts who think that a caliphate under ISIS is 'progressive'. Misguided fools. Apart from the Holomodor, the Great Leap Forward, the Holocaust, etc. Mind you, you do have a point as many were committed by socialist governments (including some nationalist ones). The good of the many...
These people were sick f***s.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Nov 14 6.38am |
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Brand doesn't promote socialism, but Anarcho-syndicalism so I don't know why people are going down that particular avenue...
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| Johnny Eagles berlin 27 Nov 14 8.21am |
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Quote nickgusset at 26 Nov 2014 11.36pm
Edited by nickgusset (26 Nov 2014 11.38pm)
Including a cringeworthy performance on 'Start the Week', places on which are normally reserved for scholars or people with genuine talent (neither of which applies to Mr Brand) where he was given lots of time to discuss his book and the points contained within. It was not enough to induce me to want to read it. It sounded very lightweight, full of higgledy-piggledy bits of vaguely collectivist stuff he's picked up off the internet. I've got better things to do with my time than read 'Revolution'. I don't need to read his book. The guy is all over the media (especially the BBC which fawns over him for some reason) and has put more than enough into the public sphere for me to make my mind up. Which I have. He is a c*ck.
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