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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Aug 23 8.22pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Watch this Netflix series called painkillers based on the true story of the Oxycontin scandal. If you don't like drama there are several documentaries about the same subject.

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The uncomfortable truth is that the FDA and bigPharma are in bed together.

Work together, certainly. In bed implies corruption and whilst the potential for it is obvious the responsibility to ensure it doesn’t happen falls on the various checks and balances established by regulations and laws.

If programmes like this expose failings then they are providing us with a valuable service. From all I can see the oversight looks strong but the devious will always try to find ways around things.

So I cannot believe the FDA as an institution are in bed with the Pharmaceutical. Industry. The people who work for it wouldn’t tolerate it and would report anything like that. I can believe there are bad apples.

 


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Originally posted by Badger11

Watch this Netflix series called painkillers based on the true story of the Oxycontin scandal. If you don't like drama there are several documentaries about the same subject.

[Link]

The uncomfortable truth is that the FDA and bigPharma are in bed together.

Not just the FDA - it goes all the way down the chain. However there’s a big difference between saying that means the whole medical community is also corrupt. Much like the met police racism labelling. Sure, they both have problems but not everyone is the problem.

You should also read Bad Pharma by Ben Goldacre.

And whilst I have seen this pushed on Netflix (but not yet watched) I highly recommend watching another series on Disney+, Dopesick, which has Michael Keaton at his best and is also about the sacklers / OxyContin / opioid crisis.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 14 Aug 23 8.31pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Work together, certainly. In bed implies corruption and whilst the potential for it is obvious the responsibility to ensure it doesn’t happen falls on the various checks and balances established by regulations and laws.

If programmes like this expose failings then they are providing us with a valuable service. From all I can see the oversight looks strong but the devious will always try to find ways around things.

So I cannot believe the FDA as an institution are in bed with the Pharmaceutical. Industry. The people who work for it wouldn’t tolerate it and would report anything like that. I can believe there are bad apples.

Not in bed but certainly amenable.

Much like the rating agencies were in the lead up to the crash. Happens everywhere in the corporate world - just appears to go in cycles, less after some sort of expose and then further away from that they get the more lax things become.

Repeating myself but do read some Ben Goldacre. Not recent but certainly eye opening.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 14 Aug 23 8.36pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

It certainly appears that there are some questionable things going on.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 14 Aug 23 8.38pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

I’m trying to remember way back in 2020 who the Q poster was that communicated almost exclusively in links and believed Trump was going to reveal all about the ‘elites’ and March into power / overthrow the state.

Then rather surprisingly disappeared after the inevitable didn’t happen.

Getting serious lizard vibes

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 14 Aug 23 8.42pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It certainly appears that there are some questionable things going on.

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Has? Tale as old as time

Correlation / causation tho, for those of you of a certain narrative persuasion

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Aug 23 9.14pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Not in bed but certainly amenable.

Much like the rating agencies were in the lead up to the crash. Happens everywhere in the corporate world - just appears to go in cycles, less after some sort of expose and then further away from that they get the more lax things become.

Repeating myself but do read some Ben Goldacre. Not recent but certainly eye opening.

It’s a while since I read anything from him but I recall he always delivered a thoughtful, objective analysis without political overtones. So could be taken seriously.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 14 Aug 23 10.05pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Work together, certainly. In bed implies corruption and whilst the potential for it is obvious the responsibility to ensure it doesn’t happen falls on the various checks and balances established by regulations and laws.

If programmes like this expose failings then they are providing us with a valuable service. From all I can see the oversight looks strong but the devious will always try to find ways around things.

So I cannot believe the FDA as an institution are in bed with the Pharmaceutical. Industry. The people who work for it wouldn’t tolerate it and would report anything like that. I can believe there are bad apples.

Watch the show or do some reading.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Aug 23 10.46pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Watch the show or do some reading.

Don’t and won’t subscribe.

I already read too much. Or so my wife tells me and she is never wrong.

 


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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 15 Aug 23 6.47am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Don’t and won’t subscribe.

I already read too much. Or so my wife tells me and she is never wrong.

You have a lot in common

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Aug 23 8.17am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I’m trying to remember way back in 2020 who the Q poster was that communicated almost exclusively in links and believed Trump was going to reveal all about the ‘elites’ and March into power / overthrow the state.

Then rather surprisingly disappeared after the inevitable didn’t happen.

Getting serious lizard vibes

He was called Mat….. something too wasn’t he? Makes sense. There were a number of similarities of opinions, minus the Covid ones which didn’t exist then but fit the general pattern.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 15 Aug 23 8.52am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Don’t and won’t subscribe.

I already read too much. Or so my wife tells me and she is never wrong.

So you claim that the FDA isn't in bed with the drug companies but wont back that up. Just look at the mass lawsuits against Purdue. The man at the FDA who approved it's use joined Purdue a year later.

So I will give you a brief summary.

- Oxycontin is simply Heroin in tablet form.
- Purdue owned the rights to a very restricted painkiller for end of life treatment e.g. you give it to dying patients who are in agony.
- Richard Sackler and the Purdue board re-branded the drug as Oycontin with the sole intention of mass marketing it in the US as a new pain medication similar to aspirin e.g. take one if you have a twinge in your back.
- It quickly became the drug of choice for existing recreational drug users and worse made addicts out of people who originally took it for legitimate purposes.
- It caused a mass opiate crisis destroying many lives and also increasing crime as people were desperate to pay for it.

- The FDA approved the use of the drug for general use despite warnings from doctors and researchers that it has the same addictive qualities are heroin.

- Their application to the FDA contained many lies e.g. only 1% of patients would become addicted (nonsense claim it's heroin for god sakes).

- The guy who approved it at the FDA joined the company on a fat salary after they groomed him for months whilst he kept rejecting their application and then he changed his mind.

As of today there have been congressional hearings and the company is now controlled by the courts whilst various lawsuits are ongoing.

At best the FDA failed completely to investigate the application at worst some of their staff colluded with Purdue and the FDA had no oversight to prevent this.

 


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