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 Stirlingsays  14 Mar 19 2.53pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Well, yes. As the father of a shepherd I am concerned that a teacher doesn't know the spelling. Just proves how divorced society is from its food production.
Originally posted by Mapletree
There is a difference though. You get the Government you encourage and vote for. That is not the same with shepherds. The sheep constantly call to bar the shepherds, yet still they keep coming back. People voted e.g. for Thatch and encouraged her in her 'reforms'. Then, boo hoo, all that extra money that came their way through reduced controls somehow becomes tainted because it was made as a result of a lack of controls. Fancy that. What were the options the country had.....Thatcher or Foot.....It's like Trump and Clinton. Thatcher was a significant improvement over the failed policies of that lot......I disagree with significant portions of what she did.....but she was by far the better option. It would also be unlikely that we would still have the Falklands.....Nope, she had balls and conviction politicians get stuff done. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Mar 2019 2.54pm)
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| Mapletree Croydon 14 Mar 19 3.07pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
What were the options the country had.....Thatcher or Foot.....It's like Trump and Clinton. Thatcher was a significant improvement over the failed policies of that lot......I disagree with significant portions of what she did.....but she was by far the better option. It would also be unlikely that we would still have the Falklands.....Nope, she had balls and conviction politicians get stuff done. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Mar 2019 2.54pm) So there you have it. The generation that supported the politics and economics of the time benefited excessively from it and should now hang their heads in shame as the younger generations pick up the tab. Instead they have made it considerably harder by alienating us from our key market and making us a vassal state of the big power blocs. And for sure the EU and USA will milk that for all it's worth. Just wait to see how much they fine our companies at the slightest excuse.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Mar 19 3.21pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
So there you have it. The generation that supported the politics and economics of the time benefited excessively from it and should now hang their heads in shame as the younger generations pick up the tab. Instead they have made it considerably harder by alienating us from our key market and making us a vassal state of the big power blocs. And for sure the EU and USA will milk that for all it's worth. Just wait to see how much they fine our companies at the slightest excuse. You actually think the EU is going to survive as a political project don't you.....I'd say 70/30 against. Younger people pick up the tab? What like the younger people picked up the tab and worked their arses off in the early eighties after Labour and the unions had us off to the IMF. Different year, some stuff. They should thank their lucky stars they were born British.....they won the fecking lottery. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Mar 2019 3.22pm)
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| Mapletree Croydon 14 Mar 19 3.25pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You actually think the EU is going to survive as a political project don't you.....I'd say 70/30 against. Younger people pick up the tab? What like the younger people picked up the tab and worked their arses off in the early eighties after Labour and the unions had us off to the IMF. Different year, some stuff. They should thank their lucky stars they were born British.....they won the fecking lottery. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Mar 2019 3.22pm) Working hard is not the point You should try working in the City or in a Law firm now. It's totally mental. The point is that the older generation are sitting on wealth in the form of pensions and property the likes of which will never be seen by the youngest generation. Fat and happy.
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| Spiderman Horsham 14 Mar 19 3.26pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
How are the over 65's feathering their nests? I did say some, not all and probably a small percentage. Living in Horsham it is quite prevelant!
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| Stirlingsays 14 Mar 19 3.35pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Working hard is not the point You should try working in the City or in a Law firm now. It's totally mental. The point is that the older generation are sitting on wealth in the form of pensions and property the likes of which will never be seen by the youngest generation. Fat and happy. Well some of them are.....most of them aren't....Some people make the most of luck, opportunity and talent...and some don't get any of those three.....same as it ever was. No one is entitled to continual improvement, it would be nice and all but we are subject to the times we inherit.....I wonder, did the WW2 generation complain or just get on with it.
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 14 Mar 19 4.36pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Well some of them are.....most of them aren't....Some people make the most of luck, opportunity and talent...and some don't get any of those three.....same as it ever was. No one is entitled to continual improvement, it would be nice and all but we are subject to the times we inherit.....I wonder, did the WW2 generation complain or just get on with it.
Most have final salary pension scheme and gold plated Public schemes, their children will not be so lucky.
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| pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 14 Mar 19 4.37pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
How are the over 65's feathering their nests? I've heard they are denying it as well.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Mar 19 4.56pm |
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Mmmm....it could be spicy in eight pages time.
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| Invalid user 2019 14 Mar 19 5.28pm |
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Independent Group MP Dr Sarah Wollaston's amendment, which called for an extension of Article 50 for another referendum to take place, has been rejected by 334 votes to 85 - a majority of 249.
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| Invalid user 2019 14 Mar 19 5.29pm |
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Now voting on 30 June Article 50 extension deadline, though of course that would have to be approved by the EU.
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| Invalid user 2019 14 Mar 19 5.40pm |
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Labour MP Lucy Powell's amendment, which specifies that Article 50 should only be extended until 30 June, has been rejected by 314 votes to 311 - a majority of just three votes.
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