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  georgenorman  29 Feb 24 3.06pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
And people are still parroting this human shield excuse - children have been found to have been sniped in the head, there are videos of the IDF executing civilians for little more than sport. We are witnessing one of the great crimes of our generation. Why aren't you out there fighting for Hamas rather than sitting here pumping out their propaganda?
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 29 Feb 24 3.23pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Why aren't you out there fighting for Hamas rather than sitting here pumping out their propaganda? God, that’s weak. Any thoughts on the latest massacre?
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 29 Feb 24 3.40pm |
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Which would not have taken place if Hamas stopped fighting. Problem is you think Hamas have a role otherwise who would " protect" the Palestinians in Gaza. What you can't see is that Hamas is the problem that causes the reaction from Israel. I don't think the post October massacre military action was anything other than a certainty, which Hamas were the catalyst for. The civilian loss of life is terrible and totally predictable. Hamas have to be destroyed as a threat to Israel and the awful loss of life is inevitable unless you are ok with Hamas continuing to exist as a threat. Edited by HKOwen (29 Feb 2024 3.44pm)
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 29 Feb 24 3.48pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Which would not have taken place if Hamas stopped fighting. Problem is you think Hamas have a role otherwise who would " protect" the Palestinians in Gaza. Because as I’ve explained before, it’s a completely illogical position. The reverse is every bit as true, that’s the nature of a conflict. Hamas are quite literally a product of Israel’s action in recent decades. An absolute inevitable consequence, that for some reason we pretend to be surprised by. I’d also highlight that the deliberate targeting of civilians and withholding of aid is collective punishment, which is a war crime. This latest attack does not involve Hamas, the IDF are not even claiming it was about Hamas. And still you see no issue. Shameless. Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (29 Feb 2024 4.55pm)
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| georgenorman 29 Feb 24 3.49pm |
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I don't pay much attention to Hamas propaganda.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 29 Feb 24 3.53pm |
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The idea that you ‘destroy’ Hamas through military action is just another complete nonsense of a point - this current action is the most convincing recruitment drive Hamas could ever dream of, as anyone approaching this with honesty knows. A genuine question now; if you were born 20 years ago in Palestine, lived your whole live under oppression with no freedom to leave. You’ve watched neighbours and family be murdered and abused by an advanced military for your entire life, and have been treated as second class citizens in your own country. What view of Israel do you think you are likely to form with that lived experience? Is it remotely surprising that people living as such end up being drawn to organisations like Hamas? What other options do you have?
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 29 Feb 24 3.55pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
I don't pay much attention to Hamas propaganda. Israel have admitted it - their security minister has claimed this is the proof of why aid should be denied to Gaza. So now you can’t pretend it’s not real, I assume you will condemn such a disgusting atrocity.
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| georgenorman 29 Feb 24 4.38pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Israel have admitted it - their security minister has claimed this is the proof of why aid should be denied to Gaza. So now you can’t pretend it’s not real, I assume you will condemn such a disgusting atrocity. I certainly won't make any judgement on Aljazeera reports, or the BBC for that matter.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 29 Feb 24 4.47pm |
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Atrocious it is, and we have never witnessed a genocide, almost in real time, seen around the world like this before. This does not bode well ultimately for the perpetrators, Israel with USA military and financial support, but also their supporters.
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| georgenorman 29 Feb 24 5.18pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
The idea that you ‘destroy’ Hamas through military action is just another complete nonsense of a point - this current action is the most convincing recruitment drive Hamas could ever dream of, as anyone approaching this with honesty knows. A genuine question now; if you were born 20 years ago in Palestine, lived your whole live under oppression with no freedom to leave. You’ve watched neighbours and family be murdered and abused by an advanced military for your entire life, and have been treated as second class citizens in your own country. What view of Israel do you think you are likely to form with that lived experience? Is it remotely surprising that people living as such end up being drawn to organisations like Hamas? What other options do you have? Israel withdrew from Gaza nearly 20 years ago and ever since there there have been claims that they have been committing genocide, especially during wars with Hamas in 2009, 2012 and 2014. When Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, the population was around 1.3 million. Now it is more than 2 million, with a male life expectancy higher than in parts of Scotland. Similarly the population in the West Bank grew by a million. Israel doesn't seem to be very good at genocide does it.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 29 Feb 24 6.26pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Israel withdrew from Gaza nearly 20 years ago and ever since there there have been claims that they have been committing genocide, especially during wars with Hamas in 2009, 2012 and 2014. When Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, the population was around 1.3 million. Now it is more than 2 million, with a male life expectancy higher than in parts of Scotland. Similarly the population in the West Bank grew by a million. Israel doesn't seem to be very good at genocide does it. I’m not really sure what this has to do with my post - Israel have long been occupying and oppressing Palestine. It has become genocidal since last year. The pentagon have today confirmed a number of 25,000 dead Palestinian women and children since October, and that’s not including civilian men, nor all of the victims still buried under rubble. All of that fake grandstanding around the source of the numbers is the latest weak excuse to fall away. 25,000 women and children - how can it be anything but a genocide?
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| georgenorman 29 Feb 24 6.38pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I’m not really sure what this has to do with my post - Israel have long been occupying and oppressing Palestine. It has become genocidal since last year. The pentagon have today confirmed a number of 25,000 dead Palestinian women and children since October, and that’s not including civilian men, nor all of the victims still buried under rubble. All of that fake grandstanding around the source of the numbers is the latest weak excuse to fall away. 25,000 women and children - how can it be anything but a genocide? The Pentagon have issued a clarification that Austin was “citing an estimate from the Hamas-controlled health ministry that more than 25,000 total Palestinians have been killed in Gaza.” Again, should anyone believe Hamas propaganda?
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