I believe they understand democracy. Also they understand that plebiscites are inappropriate due to the imbalance in cost/benefits. Someone that has only a small amount to gain may vote for something whereas others may have a very large amount to lose from that vote.

Just over 70% of 18 to 24-year-olds who voted in the referendum backed Remain, four major academic and commercial polls conducted shortly after the ballot agree, with just under 30% backing Leave. In contrast, only 40% of those aged 65 and over supported Remain, while 60% placed their cross against Leave.

My expectation is that those who were 16 and 17 at the time of the vote would be more strongly pro-Europe.

You haven't given any examples of the over 65s feathering their nests at all as all you have shown is times were better a couple of decades ago which is hardly the fault of the now retired.

As for your so called "ridiculous levels of debt" I can't see the over 65s taking on much debt at all let alone ridiculous amounts as it's the younger generation that want it all and want it all now

Most 18-24 year olds are simply not paying attention. Your frontal cortex (the part of the brain responsible for logic and decision making) doesn’t even fully develope until 24/25 years old. That’s not pseudo science. Arguably they should not even be allowed to vote.

Who on here is citing this?

People voted leave, as evidenced on this thread, on the notion our services are underfunded as a direct result of being in the EU and that we get nothing back for the money we put in.

Then you have another contributor posting leave propaganda from an Aarron banks website promoting a speech from Jacob Rees Mogg the day after a dispatchs investigation revealed how his company profited from the Brexit turmoil to the tune of £7m. If that's not being mugged off I don't know what is

And then some leave voters get in a huff and say we're not stupid. Hmm...

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

It is the fault of the politicians of the time and the people that supported them. Presumably the majority of that generation. The older generation don't have the debt as individuals given how cheap everything was for them. They were complicit in creating a debt mountain for the country and forcing the younger generation into debt through excessive housing and travel costs to name just two elements.

I did not say they are currently feathering their nests. They are too busy spending their excessive gains to bother with that any more.

And the really big debt? Defined Benefit pension plans. Crucifying our big businesses. And, unlike other savings, totally immune to the economy. Those that invented such schemes need their toe nails drawn out one by one.

Edited by Mapletree (14 Mar 2019 11.08am)

I understand criticism of politicians but I just don't get the line of attack on people.

Tell me Maple, which generation didn't take the advantages offered to them?

They all do.

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