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Stirlingsays 13 Mar 19 7.31pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger A meaningless vote. No deal Brexit will eventually happen unless we have a deal no matter what. Yeah, non binding.....still interesting how close that is in a majority remainer parliament. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Mar 2019 7.33pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

13 Mar 19 7.31pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

A meaningless vote.

No deal Brexit will eventually happen unless we have a deal no matter what.

Yeah, non binding.....still interesting how close that is in a majority remainer parliament.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Mar 2019 7.33pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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steeleye20 Croydon 13 Mar 19 7.35pm
Whatever 'malt-house is' it is dumped.
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Croydon 13 Mar 19 7.35pm

Whatever 'malt-house is' it is dumped.

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moylerg Cofton Hackett, Worcestershire 13 Mar 19 7.37pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Whatever 'malt-house is' it is dumped. ...is it a pub, sounds alright if so? Most certainly not European.
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Cofton Hackett, Worcestershire 13 Mar 19 7.37pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Whatever 'malt-house is' it is dumped.

...is it a pub, sounds alright if so?

Most certainly not European.

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dannyboy1978 13 Mar 19 8.07pm
Such a close vote tonight, should we not have another vote because the mps will be a bit older and might change their mind?
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13 Mar 19 8.07pm

Such a close vote tonight, should we not have another vote because the mps will be a bit older and might change their mind?

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Invalid user 2019 13 Mar 19 8.09pm
Originally posted by pefwin it looks like we stay in the EU in the short to medium term unless people vote for May's deal at the 3rd opportunity. I'm not so sure. It's not even legally binding, then again nor was the referendum. Plus no deal is the default unless they go crawling to the EU for an extension or withdraw article 50. The latter is surely unlikely? The great irony may be that the government will dither so much that the EU may be hesitant to offer an extension anyway, which will result in the government either having to going with no deal or withdraw article 50. The alternative is that they all agree on 'something' and then that is once again ratified with the EU. What a mess.
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13 Mar 19 8.09pm

Originally posted by pefwin

it looks like we stay in the EU in the short to medium term unless people vote for May's deal at the 3rd opportunity.

I'm not so sure. It's not even legally binding, then again nor was the referendum. Plus no deal is the default unless they go crawling to the EU for an extension or withdraw article 50. The latter is surely unlikely?

The great irony may be that the government will dither so much that the EU may be hesitant to offer an extension anyway, which will result in the government either having to going with no deal or withdraw article 50. The alternative is that they all agree on 'something' and then that is once again ratified with the EU.

What a mess.

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Stirlingsays 13 Mar 19 8.20pm
The house of parliament is politically incoherent. Votes to leave the EU, which is now statue law. Doesn't want May's deal. Doesn't want no deal. Seems it wants to shut its eyes and cover its ears. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Mar 19 8.20pm

The house of parliament is politically incoherent.

Votes to leave the EU, which is now statue law.
Doesn't want May's deal.
Doesn't want no deal.

Seems it wants to shut its eyes and cover its ears.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Invalid user 2019 13 Mar 19 8.28pm
One could certainly ask what they are faffing about for considering Quote Conservative Jacob Rees-Mogg seeks confirmation that "a motion of this House cannot overrule statute law." Speaker John Bercow confirms this is correct. He adds that if MPs want to ensure a motion's "ultimate success" further steps are required. So with the clock counting down, I'll assuming we'll have an eventful few days ahead. Stock up on the popcorn.
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Invalid user 2019

13 Mar 19 8.28pm

One could certainly ask what they are faffing about for considering

Quote Conservative Jacob Rees-Mogg seeks confirmation that "a motion of this House cannot overrule statute law."

Speaker John Bercow confirms this is correct.

He adds that if MPs want to ensure a motion's "ultimate success" further steps are required.

So with the clock counting down, I'll assuming we'll have an eventful few days ahead. Stock up on the popcorn.

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Invalid user 2019 13 Mar 19 8.29pm
"EU Commission spokesperson: “There are only two ways to leave the EU: with or without a deal. The EU is prepared for both. To take no deal off the table, it is not enough to vote against no deal you have to agree to a deal. We have agreed a deal with the Prime Minister and the EU is ready to sign it.”
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13 Mar 19 8.29pm

"EU Commission spokesperson: “There are only two ways to leave the EU: with or without a deal. The EU is prepared for both. To take no deal off the table, it is not enough to vote against no deal you have to agree to a deal. We have agreed a deal with the Prime Minister and the EU is ready to sign it.”

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ChrisGC Wantage 13 Mar 19 8.30pm
Project remain enters its final phase. 1) Rule out No deal. Tick. 2) Vote to extend A50. Coming Thursday. 3) EU agrees on the basis of 2nd referendum, probably happen next week. 4) Second referendum, this crap "deal" or remain 5) Remain. Points 4 or 5 might be replaced just with an indefinite extension to A50, suits them and keeps the sword dangling over us. We're going nowhere. Deal or No deal is a construct of remain anyway and when they extend A50 we are never, ever leaving.
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Wantage 13 Mar 19 8.30pm

Project remain enters its final phase.
1) Rule out No deal. Tick.
2) Vote to extend A50. Coming Thursday.
3) EU agrees on the basis of 2nd referendum, probably happen next week.
4) Second referendum, this crap "deal" or remain
5) Remain.

Points 4 or 5 might be replaced just with an indefinite extension to A50, suits them and keeps the sword dangling over us.

We're going nowhere. Deal or No deal is a construct of remain anyway and when they extend A50 we are never, ever leaving.

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ChrisGC Wantage 13 Mar 19 8.32pm
Originally posted by dollardays "EU Commission spokesperson: “There are only two ways to leave the EU: with or without a deal. The EU is prepared for both. To take no deal off the table, it is not enough to vote against no deal you have to agree to a deal. We have agreed a deal with the Prime Minister and the EU is ready to sign it.” As no deal is going off the table it'll boil down to this deal (remain) or remain.
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Wantage 13 Mar 19 8.32pm

Originally posted by dollardays

As no deal is going off the table it'll boil down to this deal (remain) or remain.

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Invalid user 2019 13 Mar 19 8.40pm
Originally posted by ChrisGC Project remain enters its final phase. 1) Rule out No deal. Tick. 2) Vote to extend A50. Coming Thursday. 3) EU agrees on the basis of 2nd referendum, probably happen next week. 4) Second referendum, this crap "deal" or remain 5) Remain. Points 4 or 5 might be replaced just with an indefinite extension to A50, suits them and keeps the sword dangling over us. We're going nowhere. Deal or No deal is a construct of remain anyway and when they extend A50 we are never, ever leaving. I'm inclined to think that going with May's deal, crap or not, would or would've been the best way of getting out then going from there. There's a lot of betting against this happening or that happening in parliament for as many reasons are there are permutations of Brexit, and it might all end up back at square one unless they can be something vaguely resembling an agreement.
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13 Mar 19 8.40pm

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Points 4 or 5 might be replaced just with an indefinite extension to A50, suits them and keeps the sword dangling over us.

We're going nowhere. Deal or No deal is a construct of remain anyway and when they extend A50 we are never, ever leaving.

I'm inclined to think that going with May's deal, crap or not, would or would've been the best way of getting out then going from there. There's a lot of betting against this happening or that happening in parliament for as many reasons are there are permutations of Brexit, and it might all end up back at square one unless they can be something vaguely resembling an agreement.

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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 13 Mar 19 8.41pm
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 Such a close vote tonight, should we not have another vote because the mps will be a bit older and might change their mind? Cheap Think that’s already happened with Theresa’s deal. Might even happen a third time. Next Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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