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 Kingvagabond  London 21 Mar 16 7.03am |
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Probably about the same time as the tories do something about the likes of Gulzabeen Afsar and UKIP do anything about any member of their party?
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| matt_himself Matataland 21 Mar 16 7.46am |
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Originally posted by Kingvagabond
Probably about the same time as the tories do something about the likes of Gulzabeen Afsar and UKIP do anything about any member of their party? And that's the blueprint for the 'Straight talking, honest politics' Corbyn has promised? Each day, Corbyn looks more and more like a typical Westminister hack and not the messiah Momentum and their sort proclaim him to be.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Mar 16 9.44am |
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Definitely the issue of actual anti-Semitism needs to be tackled in all political parties, along with racism, sectarianism, sexism, homophobia. Its absurd in all its forms.
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| Hoof Hearted 21 Mar 16 9.58am | |
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Originally posted by jcreedy
Maybe it's a generational thing, but some of you really don't seem to realise how much support he's gaining. Dismissing him as a scruffy old man is lazy. It's a common sense thing, nothing to do with generations! Foot, Kinnock, Miliband, were dismissed because they looked and acted like complete bozo's. The public has made it's mind up about Corbyn too.... and it aint good! The Labour Party are wasting their time supporting him as no matter how bad the Tories are, most people will not support Compo... err.. I meant...Corbyn.
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| Hoof Hearted 21 Mar 16 10.02am | |
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Originally posted by Bubbs
The next poll will no doubt show Labour further ahead....especially now Cameron has hung his best mate out to dry. The Independent are just sh1t stirring. IDS has lobbed in a grenade but it hasn't split Camerborne. Bojo won't be invited to the next Bullingdon Club reunion though....
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| matt_himself Matataland 21 Mar 16 10.28am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Definitely the issue of actual anti-Semitism needs to be tackled in all political parties, along with racism, sectarianism, sexism, homophobia. Its absurd in all its forms. Two points: you insert the word 'actual' into the above, does this mean you don't view the Vicki Kirby case as 'actual' anti Semitic. Do you view it as 'high jinks'? If it was a Tory or a Kipper making similar veined tweets about Muslims, I bet you would have a different view. Also, I agree this needs to be tackled and Mr 'honest politics' Corbyn has true ideal opportunity to squash it now within his own party. However, he seems very reluctant to do that. Why could that be?
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| Midlands Eagle 21 Mar 16 10.36am |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Foot, Kinnock, Miliband, were dismissed because they looked and acted like complete bozo's. The public has made it's mind up about Corbyn too.... and it aint good! The Labour Party are wasting their time supporting him as no matter how bad the Tories are, most people will not support Compo... err.. I meant...Corbyn. Surely it's the public in the shape of the trade union members that voted him in as the Labour MPs certainly didn't want him
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Mar 16 10.38am |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
It's a common sense thing, nothing to do with generations! Foot, Kinnock, Miliband, were dismissed because they looked and acted like complete bozo's. The public has made it's mind up about Corbyn too.... and it aint good! The Labour Party are wasting their time supporting him as no matter how bad the Tories are, most people will not support Compo... err.. I meant...Corbyn. IDS (no confidence vote), Hague (a second landslide), Major (total landslide) and Howard (defeated)? Democracy in action. I'd be concerned if I was the Conservatives, someone like Corbyn is a more of a wild card - Like Farage and the Greens, their appeal is hard to predict because they're not responding to the media and often benefit as protest votes - As much will depend on how the Tories fare in the inbetween years - Corbyn I don't think will win unless the Tories f**k up, or the SNP collapse. The question isn't really whether Corbyn would win, but whether or not the Conservatives can deliver on promises and avoid any really serious f**k ups between now and the election. Its like Leicester, its theirs to lose.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Mar 16 10.41am |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Two points: you insert the word 'actual' into the above, does this mean you don't view the Vicki Kirby case as 'actual' anti Semitic. Do you view it as 'high jinks'? If it was a Tory or a Kipper making similar veined tweets about Muslims, I bet you would have a different view. Also, I agree this needs to be tackled and Mr 'honest politics' Corbyn has true ideal opportunity to squash it now within his own party. However, he seems very reluctant to do that. Why could that be? Actual anti-Semitism, I mean where its directed at people, rather than Israeli policy and actions. There is a nasty tendency for some to describe political criticism of Israel as anti-sematic.
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| Hoof Hearted 21 Mar 16 11.08am | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
IDS (no confidence vote), Hague (a second landslide), Major (total landslide) and Howard (defeated)? Democracy in action. I'd be concerned if I was the Conservatives, someone like Corbyn is a more of a wild card - Like Farage and the Greens, their appeal is hard to predict because they're not responding to the media and often benefit as protest votes - As much will depend on how the Tories fare in the inbetween years - Corbyn I don't think will win unless the Tories f**k up, or the SNP collapse. The question isn't really whether Corbyn would win, but whether or not the Conservatives can deliver on promises and avoid any really serious f**k ups between now and the election. Its like Leicester, its theirs to lose. You've strengthened my argument jamie. The lame ducks you mentioned and I highlighted in red were perceived to be unelectable in the minds of the voters. Major actually demonstrated he was unfit for PM by his short disastrous term in office. The rest of your post is just guff. No matter what happens between now and 2020 the majority of people have made their minds up about Corbyn and he is considered unstatesmanlike (scruffy to you) untrustworthy, dangerous, a 70's throwback, black-pig shagger (Abbott), poor decision maker (Abbott again) etc etc
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| mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 21 Mar 16 11.50am |
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I'm genuinely undecided yet about which way to vote but those voting out, and who do not want Corbyn elected, would do well to heed the following, issued by an independent research company that we use who are generally spot-on in things geopolitical.
Of course, for those who hate what financial services bring to the UK, this'll be a highly attractive option. I still think my 100-1 on the next election being won by a Party that doesn't exist yet is looking better by the day.
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| matt_himself Matataland 21 Mar 16 12.45pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Actual anti-Semitism, I mean where its directed at people, rather than Israeli policy and actions. There is a nasty tendency for some to describe political criticism of Israel as anti-sematic. Do you think the Vicki Kirby incident is 'actual anti semitism'?
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