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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Mar 19 5.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's an interesting post. So essentially because the UK provides a better lifestyle than the Republic then they get rewarded with eventually losing NI? I'm not seeing the balance there for the British. Anyway If there is a united Ireland I can see the idea that the Uk would be subsidising it for a substantial period of time going down like a lead balloon. Why on earth would you fund people who have rejected you? I suppose that one of the main possible reasons would be that NI is heavily subsidised as it is - even without the costs of policing. If the Uk could eventually wash its hands of it, they may decide to continue payments for some time to assist in a smooth transition - if such a thing were possible. I don't see a huge desire in England to keep NI. Perhaps there is more than I think but I have never really come across it.
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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 12 Mar 19 5.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
Why would they not win a Brexit centred election, standing on a mandate of leaving no matter what? Why do you think Corbyn has been so reluctant to bow to the pressure to go for a second referendum? He knows it loses him the next election.
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corkery Cork City 12 Mar 19 6.16pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I suppose that one of the main possible reasons would be that NI is heavily subsidised as it is - even without the costs of policing. If the Uk could eventually wash its hands of it, they may decide to continue payments for some time to assist in a smooth transition - if such a thing were possible. I don't see a huge desire in England to keep NI. Perhaps there is more than I think but I have never really come across it.
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ChrisGC Wantage 12 Mar 19 6.32pm | |
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Originally posted by pefwin
They're all at it. Hague explained away sharing a double bed with his aide on a government trip and nobody batted an eye lid FFS.
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Pussay Patrol 12 Mar 19 6.41pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
Why would they not win a Brexit centred election, standing on a mandate of leaving no matter what? Why do you think Corbyn has been so reluctant to bow to the pressure to go for a second referendum? He knows it loses him the next election. The Tories have their constituencies utterly behind a clean Brexit break. The Tories attempting to stifle Brexit are at complete odds with their grass-roots. And they can be removed before an election. But Labour? No. Always said their divisions were far more problamatic for them electorally than the Tories. Get rid of May, put somebody charasmatic like Johnson up on offer and he wins. No ifs or buts. Labour simply cannot have a second referendum pledge as a manifesto promise and win an election. But their membership have forced that position on them. May was so cocksure she would win her election and get a Brexit mandate, she got it hopelessly wrong. Labour did make inroads and should make more, plus the Tories need to make gains to make up a majority as they only have that now with DUP support, I don't see it swinging back. The problem with your theory is you think Brexit is the be all and end all, if you put it to one side alot of people have had enough of them. There are lots of other issues they are failing on, crime, public funding. I reckon half the reason May is so desperate to deliver brexit is her party wants to avoid an election at all costs as they know they would lose
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.TUX. 12 Mar 19 7.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
May was so cocksure she would win her election and get a Brexit mandate, she got it hopelessly wrong. Labour did make inroads and should make more, plus the Tories need to make gains to make up a majority as they only have that now with DUP support, I don't see it swinging back. The problem with your theory is you think Brexit is the be all and end all, if you put it to one side alot of people have had enough of them. There are lots of other issues they are failing on, crime, public funding. I reckon half the reason May is so desperate to deliver brexit is her party wants to avoid an election at all costs as they know they would lose She isn't delivering Brexit, that's been clear for getting on for 3yr nows.
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Matov 12 Mar 19 7.33pm | |
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We are on schedule to leave on March 29th. Anybody who seeks to prevent that happening is a traitor. Never used that accusation before but there is no other way of viewing anybody who wants to scupper the result on June 16th as anything else. By Friday, we will know where we stand. And if we no longer leaving by March 29th, then all bets are off. If people think this country is divided now, then you aint see nothing yet.
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steeleye20 Croydon 12 Mar 19 8.00pm | |
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Revoking Article 50 is the only way forward for the UK. Bringing this deal back time after time will not work, and 'no deal' will be voted against tomorrow. Really how the EU can put up with bonkers May and brexit defies belief.
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.TUX. 12 Mar 19 8.16pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
We are on schedule to leave on March 29th. Anybody who seeks to prevent that happening is a traitor. Never used that accusation before but there is no other way of viewing anybody who wants to scupper the result on June 16th as anything else. By Friday, we will know where we stand. And if we no longer leaving by March 29th, then all bets are off. If people think this country is divided now, then you aint see nothing yet. We'll continue to walk the well trodden path of being poorer than those we follow, whether 'In or Out'. FACT. On a side note, Draghi, after ending the 'free money' (QE, but only to the cronies......not the plebs) a while ago is now looking to pump more QE to get the failing bloc (Germany is in recession.....how very dare they!) out of the trouble that it's now in due to the free resources that kept it going for years ending a while ago. You couldn't make it up. And no 'Pussay', James O'Brien will never mention this FACT.
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.TUX. 12 Mar 19 8.20pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Revoking Article 50 is the only way forward for the UK. Bringing this deal back time after time will not work, and 'no deal' will be voted against tomorrow. Really how the EU can put up with bonkers May and brexit defies belief. LaRouche was right. The EU is, no surprise, wrong.
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chris123 hove actually 12 Mar 19 8.24pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Revoking Article 50 is the only way forward for the UK. Bringing this deal back time after time will not work, and 'no deal' will be voted against tomorrow. Really how the EU can put up with bonkers May and brexit defies belief. There's no consensus in Parliament.
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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 12 Mar 19 8.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
We are on schedule to leave on March 29th. Anybody who seeks to prevent that happening is a traitor. Never used that accusation before but there is no other way of viewing anybody who wants to scupper the result on June 16th as anything else. By Friday, we will know where we stand. And if we no longer leaving by March 29th, then all bets are off. If people think this country is divided now, then you aint see nothing yet. Best suit up brah Because these are now your options 1) leave with no deal on March 29 I think we all know that option 1 is now off the table. I look forward to seeing all 10 of you and whose army charging into Westminster. Good luck and all that
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