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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Mar 19 5.27pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's an interesting post.

So essentially because the UK provides a better lifestyle than the Republic then they get rewarded with eventually losing NI? I'm not seeing the balance there for the British.

Anyway If there is a united Ireland I can see the idea that the Uk would be subsidising it for a substantial period of time going down like a lead balloon.

Why on earth would you fund people who have rejected you?

I suppose that one of the main possible reasons would be that NI is heavily subsidised as it is - even without the costs of policing. If the Uk could eventually wash its hands of it, they may decide to continue payments for some time to assist in a smooth transition - if such a thing were possible. I don't see a huge desire in England to keep NI. Perhaps there is more than I think but I have never really come across it.
As for the Republic - if NI were to become part of it - as I have already stated, I don't really see a political will to take it. A large part of this would be the financial burden and the potential for unrest. These factors would suggest that the UK would need to give a 'sweetener' to our upstanding Irish politicians if they were to even consider a United Ireland.
It's obviously just my opinion but I would even say that current Brexit negotiations seem to suggest that many UK politicians - of either ilk - aren't particularly interested in NI.
I expect the Unionists will get let down the most - sooner or later.

 


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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 12 Mar 19 5.54pm

Originally posted by Matov

Why would they not win a Brexit centred election, standing on a mandate of leaving no matter what? Why do you think Corbyn has been so reluctant to bow to the pressure to go for a second referendum? He knows it loses him the next election.


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But then Boris own sexual shenanigans will come out, aren't they currently covered by a super injunction?

 


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corkery Flag Cork City 12 Mar 19 6.16pm Send a Private Message to corkery Add corkery as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I suppose that one of the main possible reasons would be that NI is heavily subsidised as it is - even without the costs of policing. If the Uk could eventually wash its hands of it, they may decide to continue payments for some time to assist in a smooth transition - if such a thing were possible. I don't see a huge desire in England to keep NI. Perhaps there is more than I think but I have never really come across it.
As for the Republic - if NI were to become part of it - as I have already stated, I don't really see a political will to take it. A large part of this would be the financial burden and the potential for unrest. These factors would suggest that the UK would need to give a 'sweetener' to our upstanding Irish politicians if they were to even consider a United Ireland.
It's obviously just my opinion but I would even say that current Brexit negotiations seem to suggest that many UK politicians - of either ilk - aren't particularly interested in NI.
I expect the Unionists will get let down the most - sooner or later.


Northern Ireland has terrible roads, no economy and an awful rail service. The UK can keep Northern Ireland and keep paying for it.

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 12 Mar 19 6.32pm

Originally posted by pefwin


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But then Boris own sexual shenanigans will come out, aren't they currently covered by a super injunction?

They're all at it. Hague explained away sharing a double bed with his aide on a government trip and nobody batted an eye lid FFS.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 12 Mar 19 6.41pm

Originally posted by Matov

Why would they not win a Brexit centred election, standing on a mandate of leaving no matter what? Why do you think Corbyn has been so reluctant to bow to the pressure to go for a second referendum? He knows it loses him the next election.

The Tories have their constituencies utterly behind a clean Brexit break. The Tories attempting to stifle Brexit are at complete odds with their grass-roots. And they can be removed before an election.

But Labour? No. Always said their divisions were far more problamatic for them electorally than the Tories. Get rid of May, put somebody charasmatic like Johnson up on offer and he wins. No ifs or buts.

Labour simply cannot have a second referendum pledge as a manifesto promise and win an election. But their membership have forced that position on them.

May was so cocksure she would win her election and get a Brexit mandate, she got it hopelessly wrong. Labour did make inroads and should make more, plus the Tories need to make gains to make up a majority as they only have that now with DUP support, I don't see it swinging back.

The problem with your theory is you think Brexit is the be all and end all, if you put it to one side alot of people have had enough of them. There are lots of other issues they are failing on, crime, public funding.

I reckon half the reason May is so desperate to deliver brexit is her party wants to avoid an election at all costs as they know they would lose

 


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.TUX. Flag 12 Mar 19 7.08pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

May was so cocksure she would win her election and get a Brexit mandate, she got it hopelessly wrong. Labour did make inroads and should make more, plus the Tories need to make gains to make up a majority as they only have that now with DUP support, I don't see it swinging back.

The problem with your theory is you think Brexit is the be all and end all, if you put it to one side alot of people have had enough of them. There are lots of other issues they are failing on, crime, public funding.

I reckon half the reason May is so desperate to deliver brexit is her party wants to avoid an election at all costs as they know they would lose

She isn't delivering Brexit, that's been clear for getting on for 3yr nows.
The 'Establishment' don't want us to leave.
Pretty obvious tbh but each to their own.

 


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Matov Flag 12 Mar 19 7.33pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

We are on schedule to leave on March 29th. Anybody who seeks to prevent that happening is a traitor. Never used that accusation before but there is no other way of viewing anybody who wants to scupper the result on June 16th as anything else.

By Friday, we will know where we stand. And if we no longer leaving by March 29th, then all bets are off. If people think this country is divided now, then you aint see nothing yet.

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 12 Mar 19 8.00pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Revoking Article 50 is the only way forward for the UK.

Bringing this deal back time after time will not work, and 'no deal' will be voted against tomorrow.

Really how the EU can put up with bonkers May and brexit defies belief.


 

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.TUX. Flag 12 Mar 19 8.16pm

Originally posted by Matov

We are on schedule to leave on March 29th. Anybody who seeks to prevent that happening is a traitor. Never used that accusation before but there is no other way of viewing anybody who wants to scupper the result on June 16th as anything else.

By Friday, we will know where we stand. And if we no longer leaving by March 29th, then all bets are off. If people think this country is divided now, then you aint see nothing yet.

We'll continue to walk the well trodden path of being poorer than those we follow, whether 'In or Out'. FACT.
Brexit is an irrelevance, a manipulation, a charade.............while we all get poorer.

On a side note, Draghi, after ending the 'free money' (QE, but only to the cronies......not the plebs) a while ago is now looking to pump more QE to get the failing bloc (Germany is in recession.....how very dare they!) out of the trouble that it's now in due to the free resources that kept it going for years ending a while ago. You couldn't make it up.

And no 'Pussay', James O'Brien will never mention this FACT.



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.TUX. Flag 12 Mar 19 8.20pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Revoking Article 50 is the only way forward for the UK.

Bringing this deal back time after time will not work, and 'no deal' will be voted against tomorrow.

Really how the EU can put up with bonkers May and brexit defies belief.


LaRouche was right. The EU is, no surprise, wrong.

 


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chris123 Flag hove actually 12 Mar 19 8.24pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Revoking Article 50 is the only way forward for the UK.

Bringing this deal back time after time will not work, and 'no deal' will be voted against tomorrow.

Really how the EU can put up with bonkers May and brexit defies belief.


There's no consensus in Parliament.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 12 Mar 19 8.24pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

We are on schedule to leave on March 29th. Anybody who seeks to prevent that happening is a traitor. Never used that accusation before but there is no other way of viewing anybody who wants to scupper the result on June 16th as anything else.

By Friday, we will know where we stand. And if we no longer leaving by March 29th, then all bets are off. If people think this country is divided now, then you aint see nothing yet.

Best suit up brah

Because these are now your options

1) leave with no deal on March 29
2) ask for extension (dependant on reason, length & EU27 unanimity)
3) revoke article 50

I think we all know that option 1 is now off the table.

I look forward to seeing all 10 of you and whose army charging into Westminster. Good luck and all that

 


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