Im not sure the public will take too well to Johnson now they have seen his true colours as a self serving career politician, and when the going got tough he quit

But would he even take it? I can't see them winning an election

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Why would they not win a Brexit centred election, standing on a mandate of leaving no matter what? Why do you think Corbyn has been so reluctant to bow to the pressure to go for a second referendum? He knows it loses him the next election.

The Tories have their constituencies utterly behind a clean Brexit break. The Tories attempting to stifle Brexit are at complete odds with their grass-roots. And they can be removed before an election.

But Labour? No. Always said their divisions were far more problamatic for them electorally than the Tories. Get rid of May, put somebody charasmatic like Johnson up on offer and he wins. No ifs or buts.

Labour simply cannot have a second referendum pledge as a manifesto promise and win an election. But their membership have forced that position on them.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Hate to say it but I agree.

I used to like Johnson but the cable car, garden bridge and cycle ways started to put me off. Then after he resigned as Foreign Secretary he had a chance to de-throne May and bottled it. He has now gone on the missing list and wont surface until May has gone, that is not leadership.

My current favourite is Sajid Javid if he gets it that's 2 women PM's and one Non White (sounds like a football chant) to 0. Labour the part of equality just as long as your not Jewish.

My hope is that May is gone by the weekend but this cannot be done by the party as she has a stay of execution for 1 year, the men in grey suits will need to have a quite word.

One more point

I loathe Johnson and believe him to be everything his enemies claim him to be but he plays well out there with the British public. The electoral mood is for change. He represents a strand of that. And a snap election will be fought primarily on Brexit. He can quite openly claim to have resigned rather than back May. That will be a massive advantage over Javid.

As to getting rid of May, then that will involve Tories effectively collapsing their own Government. They make a credible threat to back a vote of no-confidence, May has to step down. Better to fall on her own sword than be forced out by an open rebellion from her own party. Could be toast as soon as this weekend although I have to caution that with owning up to predicting that before and being proved wrong.

Whatever you might think of her, she does have tenacity and by all conventional measures, should have been toppled a long time ago. Instead she is still there although it is almost painful now to see her masquerading as anything other than a lame-duck PM. With last night the final straw.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

It's an interesting post.

So essentially because the UK provides a better lifestyle than the Republic then they get rewarded with eventually losing NI? I'm not seeing the balance there for the British.

Anyway If there is a united Ireland I can see the idea that the Uk would be subsidising it for a substantial period of time going down like a lead balloon.

Why on earth would you fund people who have rejected you?

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

what do you mean by that? I assume Shamima Begum in; Szymon the tax paying, football supporting Polish plumber out.

Giving NI to the Irish would be a consideration as we look towards the break up of the United Kingdom.

Edited by pefwin (12 Mar 2019 5.59pm)

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