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 Midlands Eagle  06 Mar 19 12.44pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Here is a brexit classic I just caught up with:- 'Taking back control is a careful change, not a sudden stop - we will negotiate the terms of a new deal before we start any legal process to leave'. You are preaching to the converted as even the most ardent Brexiteer will admit that whilst the concept was sound it was the carrying out of the withdrawal that has been done poorly
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Pussay Patrol  06 Mar 19 12.55pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
You are preaching to the converted as even the most ardent Brexiteer will admit that whilst the concept was sound it was the carrying out of the withdrawal that has been done poorly What about moderate people that voted leave in good faith on the basis the benefits would become obvious and compelling as they may have appeared at the time and our exit would be a smooth and orderly transition?
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| Midlands Eagle 06 Mar 19 1.24pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
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| dannyboy1978 06 Mar 19 1.28pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Yours is the idiotic argument here, together with the usual old twits. The UK already controls its own borders, immigration is now predominantly non-EU. Brexit will deliver more immigration from non-EU countries, not less. Don't let's insult brexiteers with reality though. What's wrong with more imigration if we need it and have control. You just don't get it do you.
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| dannyboy1978 06 Mar 19 1.30pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
The point being made is the terminology and rhetoric used to justify Brexit one being taking control of our borders. You have to ask is this a real problem and our borders are out of control or is it more a case of politicians playing up to misconceptions stoked up by the media or general populism? Do you think we have control with free movement from the EU?
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cpfc_chap  koh samui 06 Mar 19 1.37pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
What about moderate people that voted leave in good faith on the basis the benefits would become obvious and compelling as they may have appeared at the time and our exit would be a smooth and orderly transition? Probably pissed off with the way the EU has treated the uk in these talks and negotiations!
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| Pussay Patrol 06 Mar 19 2.03pm |
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Originally posted by cpfc_chap
Probably pissed off with the way the EU has treated the uk in these talks and negotiations! I said moderate people
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 06 Mar 19 2.05pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
f*** me still trolling.
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| W12 06 Mar 19 2.17pm | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
The point being made is the terminology and rhetoric used to justify Brexit one being taking control of our borders. You have to ask is this a real problem and our borders are out of control or is it more a case of politicians playing up to misconceptions stoked up by the media or general populism? The "misconceptions stoked up by the media" for years now are that mass migration is a net gain for everyone with no significant downsides, you are a racist (far right) if you disagree with this and there are hardly any politicians that go against this view. Populism (the majority opinion) has grown due to the fact that politicians have consistently failed to address these legitimate concerns.
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| Pussay Patrol 06 Mar 19 2.47pm |
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Originally posted by W12
The "misconceptions stoked up by the media" for years now are that mass migration is a net gain for everyone with no significant downsides, you are a racist (far right) if you disagree with this and there are hardly any politicians that go against this view. Populism (the majority opinion) has grown due to the fact that politicians have consistently failed to address these legitimate concerns. I think you don't understand what populism is. So you're now saying the media were trying to promote the benefits of migration by saying we've lost control of our borders?
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 06 Mar 19 4.08pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
I think you don't understand what populism is. So you're now saying the media were trying to promote the benefits of migration by saying we've lost control of our borders? I think his definition is reasonable. How would you define it?
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| Robert Heenan East Cheshire 06 Mar 19 5.12pm |
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I don't believe we can leave the unelected EU cabal. The politics and institutions are too closely tied and knitted to the unelected EU cabal despite what the establishment says. I've always believed this to be the case since June 2016 that the establishment has absolutely no desire or appetite to leave the EU. I think its the case in all EU countries. The establishment in those countries are subservient to their EU mafia dons
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