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| W12 08 Jul 22 10.12am | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
That struck me too. Where is this so called theft? We spent some £400 billion That's £400,000,000,000.00 Perhaps someone can explain where all that went?
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 cryrst  The garden of England 08 Jul 22 10.14am |
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Originally posted by silvertop
That is hardly a feature exclusive to this government. I mean just before Cameron won labour never gave out billions in contracts to building firms or ramped up PFI. I heard staples ran out of brown envelopes in the west end
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 Hrolf The Ganger  08 Jul 22 10.17am |
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The idea that we have removed a Prime Minister because he was a bigger liar than all the other liars is truly laughable. The domino effect of MPs resignations just shows how sickening self serving they all are. They put their careers before the party and the country. Westminster truly lives in its own bubble. And what are we left with? A bunch of mediocre nobodies left to fight it out for the big job. The Tories really know how to shoot themselves in the foot. It's almost like they get bored when they have a big majority and want to screw it up just for a bit of excitement.
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| cryrst The garden of England 08 Jul 22 10.19am |
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Originally posted by W12
We spent some £400 billion That's £400,000,000,000.00 Perhaps someone can explain where all that went? Well that’s everything. Tests, furlough, loans,vaccines, staff,R andD, help for poorer countries,the extra hospitals The list is virtually infinite but I doubt 47 billion was nicked by borises mates. With that type of spend there is always some erosions or untraceable payments. Tbh it is a lot of dosh but I was ok with it as I’m still here and may not be without my vaccines.
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| W12 08 Jul 22 10.22am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Well that’s everything. Tests, furlough, loans,vaccines, staff,R andD, help for poorer countries,the extra hospitals The list is virtually infinite but I doubt 47 billion was nicked by borises mates. With that type of spend there is always some erosions or untraceable payments. Tbh it is a lot of dosh but I was ok with it as I’m still here and may not be without my vaccines. Don't you think we deserve an audit? It's a ridiculous amount.
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| cryrst The garden of England 08 Jul 22 10.29am |
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Of sorts Defiantly yes but it will take time. We aren’t even over the spend yet as people are still contracting covid and dying in hospitals.
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| silvertop Portishead 08 Jul 22 1.20pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The idea that we have removed a Prime Minister because he was a bigger liar than all the other liars is truly laughable. The domino effect of MPs resignations just shows how sickening self serving they all are. They put their careers before the party and the country. Westminster truly lives in its own bubble. And what are we left with? A bunch of mediocre nobodies left to fight it out for the big job. The Tories really know how to shoot themselves in the foot. It's almost like they get bored when they have a big majority and want to screw it up just for a bit of excitement. Both Boris and Trump are popular and populist and proved to be sure vote winners riding an anti-establishment ticket at just the right moment in time. Both were sadly found completely wanting in nation management and were deeply poor as statesmen and representatives for their respective countries. The difference is that Boris knew his place and was largely managed. Trouble is, it was only a matter of time before he got found out. Trump, on the other hand, never understood that his role ought to have been restricted to the face of actions of those actually competent to run a behemoth country like the USA. It's like that line from "Yes Prime Minister" (paraphrased). H: What does he think he is doing? BTW, 2 points. 1. A lot has been said about there being no-one to replace Boris. I think that is rubbish. There is just no-one from the Leave right of party to replace him (Boris disingenuously migrated to that side to take charge anyway). Now Brexit is done and there is zero appetite to reverse it, Leave no longer need a staunch Brexiteer in charge. That purpose has been served. Thus, if you delve into the whole parliamentary party and bring in Remainers, you are spoiled for choice. The idea that a person from that side will lack the heart or ideological ken to implement that manifesto pledge to the detriment of the nation is risible. Whoever is selected will have the nations' best interest as number one, rather than their own personal legacy. At least at first. You may not like the options from that pool, but I suspect the party will find someone who the country will like. And trust. Integrity will be all. 2. Also, not much of a consolation for the Con world, but the Tories are lightweights at shooting themselves in the foot compared to Labour. Thus, if Starmer has to go and is replaced, just wait to see what unelectable idiot that party (i.e. the unions) go for to replace him.
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| W12 08 Jul 22 1.27pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Both Boris and Trump are popular and populist and proved to be sure vote winners riding an anti-establishment ticket at just the right moment in time. Both were sadly found completely wanting in nation management and were deeply poor as statesmen and representatives for their respective countries. The difference is that Boris knew his place and was largely managed. Trouble is, it was only a matter of time before he got found out. Trump, on the other hand, never understood that his role ought to have been restricted to the face of actions of those actually competent to run a behemoth country like the USA. It's like that line from "Yes Prime Minister" (paraphrased). H: What does he think he is doing? BTW, 2 points. 1. A lot has been said about there being no-one to replace Boris. I think that is rubbish. There is just no-one from the Leave right of party to replace him (Boris disingenuously migrated to that side to take charge anyway). Now Brexit is done and there is zero appetite to reverse it, Leave no longer need a staunch Brexiteer in charge. That purpose has been served. Thus, if you delve into the whole parliamentary party and bring in Remainers, you are spoiled for choice. The idea that a person from that side will lack the heart or ideological ken to implement that manifesto pledge to the detriment of the nation is risible. Whoever is selected will have the nations' best interest as number one, rather than their own personal legacy. At least at first. You may not like the options from that pool, but I suspect the party will find someone who the country will like. And trust. Integrity will be all. 2. Also, not much of a consolation for the Con world, but the Tories are lightweights at shooting themselves in the foot compared to Labour. Thus, if Starmer has to go and is replaced, just wait to see what unelectable idiot that party (i.e. the unions) go for to replace him. Are you claiming that Biden is an improvement on Trump in terms of running the US?
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| Stirlingsays 08 Jul 22 1.29pm |
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So let's get this right.....Boris and co get fined for attending drinks with work colleagues....with their excuse of saying it was exempt because it was work related being rejected. (which is of course a mealy mouthed get out clause) Yet Starmer and co will not receive any fines over 'Beergate'. because the cops have concluded it was exempt due to being work related. Eh?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jul 22 1.49pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Both Boris and Trump are popular and populist and proved to be sure vote winners riding an anti-establishment ticket at just the right moment in time. Both were sadly found completely wanting in nation management and were deeply poor as statesmen and representatives for their respective countries. The difference is that Boris knew his place and was largely managed. Trouble is, it was only a matter of time before he got found out. Trump, on the other hand, never understood that his role ought to have been restricted to the face of actions of those actually competent to run a behemoth country like the USA. It's like that line from "Yes Prime Minister" (paraphrased). H: What does he think he is doing? BTW, 2 points. 1. A lot has been said about there being no-one to replace Boris. I think that is rubbish. There is just no-one from the Leave right of party to replace him (Boris disingenuously migrated to that side to take charge anyway). Now Brexit is done and there is zero appetite to reverse it, Leave no longer need a staunch Brexiteer in charge. That purpose has been served. Thus, if you delve into the whole parliamentary party and bring in Remainers, you are spoiled for choice. The idea that a person from that side will lack the heart or ideological ken to implement that manifesto pledge to the detriment of the nation is risible. Whoever is selected will have the nations' best interest as number one, rather than their own personal legacy. At least at first. You may not like the options from that pool, but I suspect the party will find someone who the country will like. And trust. Integrity will be all. 2. Also, not much of a consolation for the Con world, but the Tories are lightweights at shooting themselves in the foot compared to Labour. Thus, if Starmer has to go and is replaced, just wait to see what unelectable idiot that party (i.e. the unions) go for to replace him. I don't really agree with most of this, but it's all about opinions. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Jul 2022 1.49pm)
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Jul 22 1.58pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
So let's get this right.....Boris and co get fined for attending drinks with work colleagues....with their excuse of saying it was exempt because it was work related being rejected. (which is of course a mealy mouthed get out clause) Yet Starmer and co will not receive any fines over 'Beergate'. because the cops have concluded it was exempt due to being work related. Eh? Does it come down to there being relaxed rules when Starmer had his beers? I remember someone I know claim this when it was first brought up months before it came up the 2nd time with more traction. It’s an error I’m really not bothered about but I understand how people have been in uproar about it due to the family visits they couldn’t make and funerals limited to 10 etc. They should have done what they wanted but there were care homes, hospitals and officials at funerals and cremations stopping people.
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| Grumbles 08 Jul 22 2.14pm |
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I see some very contentious policies announced by cronies today. I wonder the reason? Surely he said he was a caretaker , these are not action of a caretaker PM, more a degenerate liar who can't accept the truth. This will not play well with many in his party and adding to the carcrash. There is time for him to be persuaded on a GE by Moog and Nadine, if he carries on like this Edited by Grumbles (08 Jul 2022 2.37pm)
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