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BlueJay  UK 11 May 22 10.54pm |
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Originally posted by W12
Fair enough, did you ever look deeper as to an explanation for what happened to building 7 or why there was apparently no airplane wreckage at the pentagon site. I only say this because I had not given it a thought until about a year ago and then wondered why. I would say it’s fascinating even if you are very sceptical. I've looked into it to an extent, and also movements of money around that time, but I tend to stick with the conclusion I reached. Also with Ukraine I've not said there aren't wider motivates and considerations at play, I'm simply making a point that the besieged should be able to defend themselves, not be sweepingly demonised, and that letting Russia roll over them is not only morally weak but also conjures up as many if not more problems than turning a blind eye. There is a broad consensus in Europe that it's a bad idea to do so with something so close to home. Any decision comes at a cost of course, and nobody knows precisely where any particular one will lead. I appreciate that we've drifted off topic though so will leave it at that!
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 Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 12 May 22 8.30am |
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Originally posted by W12
By the way, I’ve no idea what actually transpired on 9/11 but from what I see the official explanation is literally laughable. It's an interesting thing to bring up, perhaps it's own thread? I'm on the same page, it is amazing when you see and read some things at an early age and you think 'a lot of this doesn't make sense' and that's you, as some teenager in SE London, let alone a world full of scientists, politicians, military experts, news correspondents and well, just everybody actually. I'm not inclined to believe that the US government planned and orchestrated the entire thing, that really would be nuts although not impossible. I think OBL was proven and well known to be a fanatical, arsenal supporting nutcase and even logic tells you it's unlikely he'd work with the US Government to stage something inauthentic. There are a lot of unanswered questions however, I would be inclined to believe that with any major moment in US history there are puppet masters pulling strings of some imagination behind the scenes. I suppose as long as many things still seem unclear if not dubious or illogical, there will always be questions. Would be interesting to see what would have come out, say, were Twitter around back then.
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| W12 12 May 22 9.09am | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
It's an interesting thing to bring up, perhaps it's own thread? I'm on the same page, it is amazing when you see and read some things at an early age and you think 'a lot of this doesn't make sense' and that's you, as some teenager in SE London, let alone a world full of scientists, politicians, military experts, news correspondents and well, just everybody actually. I'm not inclined to believe that the US government planned and orchestrated the entire thing, that really would be nuts although not impossible. I think OBL was proven and well known to be a fanatical, arsenal supporting nutcase and even logic tells you it's unlikely he'd work with the US Government to stage something inauthentic. There are a lot of unanswered questions however, I would be inclined to believe that with any major moment in US history there are puppet masters pulling strings of some imagination behind the scenes. I suppose as long as many things still seem unclear if not dubious or illogical, there will always be questions. Would be interesting to see what would have come out, say, were Twitter around back then. I've no idea exactly what happened on the day but the idea that there wasn't some absolutely huge f***ery going on and that the security services didn't know about it seems so unlikely to me as to be almost impossible. The truth is that most people just haven't spent any time looking into this because why would they.
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Stirlingsays  12 May 22 10.16am |
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I think we had a 9/11 thread...a conspiracy one anyway. I looked into it quite a lot. I think the official story is about 85 percent what they said. There are explanations for WTC7 and there was actually plane parts on the lawn at the Pentagon, the images are out there. Most of the the questions are answered to a reasonable degree. For me, the obfuscation is in who knew about the attack. It wasn't an inside job as far as I know but the Israelis knew about it....or at least elements in Mossad did and the arrests after 9/11 proved it as far as I'm concerned. Fox covered the story at the time but It's been buried since.
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| silvertop Portishead 12 May 22 10.27am |
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Originally posted by W12
Fair enough, did you ever look deeper as to an explanation for what happened to building 7 or why there was apparently no airplane wreckage at the pentagon site. I only say this because I had not given it a thought until about a year ago and then wondered why. I would say it’s fascinating even if you are very sceptical. The OJ Simpson investigation was featured in a documentary where British bobbies gave their views. OK, hardly the gold standard; but these coppers were literally eye-popped when they saw the size 9s of the American cops trudging around, contaminating the crime scene. Likewise, no wreckage at the Pentagon. A military site. Just as possible to be some shouty sergeant yelling at the troops to clear it all away. Incompetency is not very exciting; but it is a lot more likely. The Looming Towers TV show is just that. Fictional entertainment.
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| The Dolphin 13 May 22 4.45pm |
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The looming towers is based on truth I believe. Edited by The Dolphin (14 May 2022 8.18am)
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| W12 13 May 22 4.53pm | |
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Originally posted by The Dolphin
The looking towers is based on truth I believe. Do you mean the Looming Towers?
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| W12 13 May 22 5.01pm | |
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By the way, can anyone look at the video of building 7 falling and really think that it did so as a result of a fire? Compare it to a controlled demolition: If so, is there any other example of this happening anywhere else in the world. Seems crazy to me but either way I think it's a fascinating subject and well worth looking into.
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 13 May 22 6.40pm |
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Originally posted by W12
By the way, can anyone look at the video of building 7 falling and really think that it did so as a result of a fire? Compare it to a controlled demolition: If so, is there any other example of this happening anywhere else in the world. Seems crazy to me but either way I think it's a fascinating subject and well worth looking into. This has WHAT to do with the left-wing/woke bbc?
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| W12 13 May 22 8.12pm | |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
This has WHAT to do with the left-wing/woke bbc? It’s amazing how the subject will need to urgently change when people start to find their reality uncomfortable. I accept your point though.
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| Stirlingsays 13 May 22 8.45pm |
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Originally posted by W12
By the way, can anyone look at the video of building 7 falling and really think that it did so as a result of a fire? Compare it to a controlled demolition: If so, is there any other example of this happening anywhere else in the world. Seems crazy to me but either way I think it's a fascinating subject and well worth looking into. This video explained a lot to me about about WTC 7 when I was looking into it all back in the day. Also note how noisy a controlled demolition is, also seen in your video, compared to the lack of charge noise when WTC 7 fell. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 May 2022 8.58pm)
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| W12 13 May 22 9.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
This video explained a lot to me about about WTC 7 when I was looking into it all back in the day. Also note how noisy a controlled demolition is, also seen in your video, compared to the lack of charge noise when WTC 7 fell.
I will watch but please watch this: Edited by W12 (13 May 2022 9.09pm)
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