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dannyboy1978 04 Mar 20 5.22am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It has sweet fa to do anything "left" or indeed "right"! The "common culture" of these child rapists seems to be that they are groups of evil men using a perverted interpretation of a religious belief to justify to themselves actions which are totally against the law. The law needs to assert itself as it does against all criminals. You just can't say it can you! That's why I am uncomfortable with your thinking. Please don't spin the answer like "the law needs to assert it's self " that's obvious and a totally diffrent question. And the common heritage is?........
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Matov 04 Mar 20 6.38am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
A tad puzzled here. You have told us that you have not studied Islam to any great degree yet feel qualified to proclaim the interpretation by these grooming gangs is 'perverted'. How do you arrive at that conclusion?
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DanH SW2 04 Mar 20 6.47am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
A tad puzzled here. You have told us that you have not studied Islam to any great degree yet feel qualified to proclaim the interpretation by these grooming gangs is 'perverted'. How do you arrive at that conclusion? I thought not studying anything to any great degree and yet feeling qualified to proclaim the gospel on it was a prerequisite of posting on here.
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Stirlingsays 04 Mar 20 11.33am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
I thought not studying anything to any great degree and yet feeling qualified to proclaim the gospel on it was a prerequisite of posting on here. You do realise that you just posted and hence by your own criteria described yourself.
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Hrolf The Ganger 04 Mar 20 12.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
People have wanted to confront Islam for centuries but it's still flourishing. To suggest it is the "root cause" of the problem is to offer a very simplistic analysis which leads us no-where. It's the interpretation of some parts of the Islamic faith by some Muslims which appear to be the problem. Not all and not everywhere. Look, for instance, at Islam in Malaysia. The parts of Islam that are not the problem are therefore irrelevant. I'm not interested in those who don't commit a crime or those who interpret Islam in a different way. I am interested in those who think it gives them licence to rape young White girls. The bottom line is that their religion and culture is a key factor and that it was a huge mistake to allow such a backward culture into this country even if only 1% of its followers are rapists. That 1% has been responsible a lot of rape. Thousands of victims. I'm just not interested in your smug observations while this imported problem continues and while we continue to allow Muslims here in their thousands.
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Stirlingsays 04 Mar 20 12.14pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The parts of Islam that are not the problem are therefore irrelevant. I'm not interested in those who don't commit a crime or those who interpret Islam in a different way. I am interested in those who think it gives them licence to rape young White girls. The bottom line is that their religion and culture is a key factor and that it was a huge mistake to allow such a backward culture into this country even if only 1% of its followers are rapists. That 1% has been responsible a lot of rape. Thousands of victims. I'm just not interested in your smug observations while this imported problem continues and while we continue to allow Muslims here in their thousands. A cogent post that hits the back of the net on every point.
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samprior Hamburg 04 Mar 20 12.25pm | |
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I thought this thread was for slagging off of the BBC. We've already got the grooming thread... it's bad enough we don't want two surely!
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Badger11 Beckenham 04 Mar 20 12.33pm | |
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Originally posted by samprior
I thought this thread was for slagging off of the BBC. We've already got the grooming thread... it's bad enough we don't want two surely! Agreed although I might have contributed to derailing this thread we should focus on BBC stories please.
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samprior Hamburg 04 Mar 20 12.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Agreed although I might have contributed to derailing this thread we should focus on BBC stories please. Shame on you Back to the BBC. I stopped paying my license fee as soon as Madge was killed off in Neighbours. Edited by samprior (04 Mar 2020 12.37pm) Edited by samprior (04 Mar 2020 12.38pm)
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DanH SW2 04 Mar 20 1.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You do realise that you just posted and hence by your own criteria described yourself. Yeah but I don't pretend I know everything
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Mar 20 2.44pm | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
You just can't say it can you! That's why I am uncomfortable with your thinking. Please don't spin the answer like "the law needs to assert it's self " that's obvious and a totally diffrent question. And the common heritage is?........ I have already told you that as someone else pointed out. Their common heritage is that they are all criminals prepared to prey on the vulnerable. That many seem to have originally shared one faith is besides the point. Many other criminals come from other faiths but we don't ever mention them. The IRA, for instance, were all Christians. We don't know which branch of a faith they might have belonged to, whether they followed a particular teacher or whether they still believed. What we do know is that they are a tiny minority of those who believe so using any faith based description is both meaningless and inaccurate.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Mar 20 2.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The parts of Islam that are not the problem are therefore irrelevant. I regret that you see it that way. I am trying to be realistic in an effort to find practical solutions and not airy fairy ones. I'm not interested in those who don't commit a crime or those who interpret Islam in a different way. I am interested in those who think it gives them licence to rape young White girls. Exactly right. Concentrate on the criminals and if they justify their activities because of a belief then recognise that and devise a strategy to eradicate it. The bottom line is that their religion and culture is a key factor and that it was a huge mistake to allow such a backward culture into this country even if only 1% of its followers are rapists. That 1% has been responsible a lot of rape. Thousands of victims. That's an opinion based, at least partly, on hindsight. I believe it's much more complicated and nuanced than that as it involves our relationships, and duties to, many other countries. I'm just not interested in your smug observations while this imported problem continues and while we continue to allow Muslims here in their thousands. Whether you are "interested" or not the fact remains that we are where we are and not where you might prefer us to be. Facing that reality means we must find real ways to handle things and not simply be a keyboard warrior moaning about how bad everything is.
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