You didn't answer my question, I asked how you define these people who are child rapists. What community do they belong to?

Is it not possible though that Islam, both through its proclamations about women being required to act 'modestly' along with its emphasis on creating the notion of the 'other' through its notions of Kuffir does act as a way of these men's behaviour being justified?

I have never studied Islam but others seem to think that what you say is one of the interpretations that some followers of the religion are encouraged to believe. The key word though is "some". We need to show everyone that in our country our laws and standards apply to all and those who accept them, whatever their personal faith, will be able to lead full and happy lives. Those that don't, for whatever reason but including interpretations of faith, must face the law until they do.

That essentially these girls, through lifestyle choices, essentially asked for it? And that since they are non-Muslims, easier to write off as being lesser than?

Anyone, for whatever reasons, who decide such things need to be detected and punished. Religious belief needs to be disregarded and won't appear on any charge sheet. Excuses are not justifications.

This idea of organised grooming gangs are not predominately Muslim just by off chance are they? Or is it just one of those odd coincidences that we should just brush off and ignore?

That this seems likely to be true is not the point. It may well be how the authorities get to grips with the underlying issues to devise their strategies to eradicate the crimes but to assist them to do so we need to get the Islamic communities on our side and fighting this battle with us. Stigmatising them all is not the way to do that.

Now I believe that these grooming scandals were allowed to continue unchecked for decades because essentially Labour run councils, along with a leadership cadre of both the Police and Social services were willing to trade both electoral advantage and career advancement for this to continue unchallenged and in many cases, actively colluded with the miscreants.

I have no comment to make on that because I don't have any detailed knowledge of it's truth. It has though nothing to do with the issue I have raised.

But Islam provided the wider framework around the group mentality to arise that justified it in the first place. These girls were considered lesser than by all parties involved. A terrible collusion of both left-wing identity dogma allied with a religion that does see non-believers and especially women who do not confirm to its moral standards as fair game.

That's an assertion that cannot be true. It might well be found that certain clerics have been preaching in ways that have led some to believe such things and if so we need to find them, hold them responsible and punish them. It cannot though be true of the whole of Islam.

Edited by Matov (03 Mar 2020 11.49am)

Exactly.

This is about the delusion of moral and religious superiority justifying acts against young Western women seen as lower forms of life by men whose culture restricts promiscuity with their own kind.
Racism, misogyny and religious dogma all in play.

He did, he put them in the criminal community!

It has sweet fa to do anything "left" or indeed "right"!

The "common culture" of these child rapists seems to be that they are groups of evil men using a perverted interpretation of a religious belief to justify to themselves actions which are totally against the law. The law needs to assert itself as it does against all criminals.