Yeah....all those English people in London wanting to break away the English capital from England.

Yeah....must be the overwhelming majority.

The huge demographic changes over the last thirty years....they have nothing to do with it.

Keep pushing your head deeper into that sand.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Oct 2018 12.07am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

You do get some strange ideas in your head.

Also, your demographic argument relies on the assumption that new generations remain distinct from other groups. Younger generations assimilate far better than the older generations that are far more tribal and fearful of difference. I have a lot more in common with people my age from different ‘demographics’ than I do people 20/30 years older than me on here.

Change happens. It’s not always something to fear.

This one baffles me. I work in London as just about live in Greater London. I work in and around politics. I have never heard of the London Independence movement which surprises me as it seems one in five Londoners support it. Maybe time for some of our keyboard warriors and truth seekers to not believe everything they read.

Not saying it doesn't exist but you can attach the name movement to anything, it neither gives it substance nor credence.

Am enjoying the debate on Englishness. All a bit like Tebbit's cricket test (which makes Moeen Ali English.)

Where do we stand on that green curry sauce you get on chips in the Brexit loving north?

So you have dis respected Aussie rules, I take it your ok for people to disrespect other foreign influences?

You have self delusion in yours.

This is the lefty lie.....It's jam tomorrow on integration....later generations are going to wake up being English in fifty years. It's a lie....it's a numbers game. The truth is integration is different for different groups and integration levels are bad amongst most non European ones.

I mean it's not as if we haven't had seventy years of immigration into this country already.....We literally have foreign bases in our cities and the idea that they regard themselves as English is a pure lie regardless of the generation.

Change always happens....but what that change is happens to be political.

Using your argument South Africa should be a happily integrated country because whites have been there for hundreds of years.

England has to have a majority of English people within it to remain English.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Oct 2018 10.20am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

that is truly weird logic.

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