I’m for leaving. A vote is a vote.

I never said you shouldn’t complain, I just think you’re being a little too melodramatic, and very unrealistic. As before I respect your desire to actually do something about your points of view because that’s more than most people bother about (because the reality is they’re too comfortable in their own little lives but won’t admit it) but there is a far greater chance of a second ref not happening than happening. It is not a foregone conclusion. Nowhere near. Even if it does happen, there will not be a mass uprising. Reaction yes, but mass revolt, no. As before, the people that would actually make a difference in a large scale revolt are too comfortable to bother.

I’m personally fed up with the vagueness and platitudes constantly being banded about. Leave means leave, leave in a meaningful way. We voted to leave. All subjective and vacuous with little qualification but always expectation that their version of leaving is the one everyone else wants. Firstly that’s not true. It really annoys me when people assume to speak for 17 million others as though their view is shared, as some form of self assured narcissism.

Also, frankly, unless you’re prepared to do something about it, ask yourself this, who actually gives a f***. And, who actually is going to notice? It’s like abusing the ref from the back of the upper Holmesdale. Completely pointless. If you’re that bothered about it sit front row and make sure he can hear you. Or if you’re you, probably run on the pitch and lamp him (not advised). I’d have more respect for more people if they actually took a pro active stance, relative to the strength of feeling. Or at least admitted otherwise.

Secondly if you were hoping for ‘leave means leave’, ie a no deal brexit, it’s not going to happen. It will be a compromise brexit, just like it was always going to be. Be happy you got half of what you voted for. Doesn’t happen that often!

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Ok define huge unrest. Before it was anarchy. Make your mind up. Because as I see it all you’d end up with is a few mass protests and a bit of political mud slinging and that would be it. Increase food prices, continue with austerity and reduce job and earnings opportunities in a short space of time - enough to affect a significant amount of the lower middle class population? Then you have something close to what I think you’re envisaging. It would require more than that to get to the levels of Matovs imagination.

I’m afraid you’ll just have to deal with a half brexit and some whimpering. That’s about it. Not even a soggy sparkler.

Edited by SW19 CPFC (27 Feb 2019 9.24am)

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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For all her faults, that's a real Tory.

Not the excuse we have in power now.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Thatcher would never countenance a referendum on anything, particularly Europe, she was implacably opposed.

She had lost her way in 2001 and had to go after a sharp economic downturn exposed her economic policies.

The single market, which she championed, is he best achievement really.

Your 'real tory' sold off the nations assets there is hardly anything left, her policies, lies and secrecy are being found out every day.

I was truly shocked at the revelations about the Falklands really that old line about your patriotic duty is an old card that never fails.

Oddly enough that's not how I remember it. I recall a life where the whole country was in the firm grip of the unions who were constantly on strike whether for parity or differential with the miners strike being the final straw and it was Margaret Thatcher who broke the stranglehold that the unions had over the populace.

She may have privatised the utilities enriching the working man who bought the shares in the process but surely it was that well known Tory Gordon Brown who sold off the nation's assets in the form of our gold reserves