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cpj Flag Kent 25 Sep 17 3.44pm Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Originally posted by robdave2k

Yes he is

Ok -

2013-2014
signed by Pulis who played Speroni

2014-15
Pulis leaves - Warnock & Pardew play Speroni for that season

2015-16
Speroni gets injured and Pardew brings in Alex Mccarthy as number one. Mccarthy turns out not to be very good.

2016-17
Pardew tries replacing him again with Mandanda. Pardew gets fired and Allardyce takes over.

2017-18
Allardyce goes. In comes DeBoer who tries to replace him.

So yes, I'd say he's there by default wouldn't you? Not one manager has rated him highly enough to go "he's my number one and I back him". They've all tried to sign a replacement.

What actually happened was:

2014-15
Pulis leaves - Warnock & Pardew play Speroni for that season - SPERONI HAS NO CLEAN SHEET IN LAST 14 GAMES. WH CONCEDES 1 IN TWO GAMES AT END OF SEASON.

2015-16
Speroni gets injured and Pardew brings in Alex Mccarthy as number one. Mccarthy turns out not to be very good. SPERONI IS FIT AGAIN BUT PARDEW PLAYS WH FOR REST OF SEASON.

2016-17
Pardew tries replacing him again with Mandanda. Pardew gets fired and Allardyce takes over. MANDANDA GOT INJURED BUT YET AGAIN SPERONI WASN'T CHOSEN AHEAD OF WH.

2017-18
Allardyce goes. In comes DeBoer who tries to replace him. NO EVIDENCE OF THIS. AGAIN, WHY DID HE THEN PLAY WH IF SPERONI IS SO GOOD?

 
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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards robdave2k Flag 25 Sep 17 4.10pm

Originally posted by cpj

What actually happened was:

2014-15
Pulis leaves - Warnock & Pardew play Speroni for that season - SPERONI HAS NO CLEAN SHEET IN LAST 14 GAMES. WH CONCEDES 1 IN TWO GAMES AT END OF SEASON.

2015-16
Speroni gets injured and Pardew brings in Alex Mccarthy as number one. Mccarthy turns out not to be very good. SPERONI IS FIT AGAIN BUT PARDEW PLAYS WH FOR REST OF SEASON.

2016-17
Pardew tries replacing him again with Mandanda. Pardew gets fired and Allardyce takes over. MANDANDA GOT INJURED BUT YET AGAIN SPERONI WASN'T CHOSEN AHEAD OF WH.

2017-18
Allardyce goes. In comes DeBoer who tries to replace him. NO EVIDENCE OF THIS. AGAIN, WHY DID HE THEN PLAY WH IF SPERONI IS SO GOOD?

You are comparing apples with pears. The argument is why has every manager tried to sign a replacement number one If Hennessy is such a good goalkeeper?

 
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EagleEssex Flag Essex 25 Sep 17 4.16pm Send a Private Message to EagleEssex Add EagleEssex as a friend

Originally posted by robdave2k

You are comparing apples with pears. The argument is why has every manager tried to sign a replacement number one If Hennessy is such a good goalkeeper?

More to the point, if Hennessey was such a bad goalkeeper, how has he managed to both win back and then keep his place for so long.

If he was such a bad keeper, why has it been so difficult to find a replacement who is an improvement?

Answer - because there are not many out there who are better than Hennessey who are available, because he is a decent keeper, the group above him in terms of quality are rare and expensive and possibly unlikely to want to come to us.

 
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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 25 Sep 17 4.30pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Budget was allocated for Sakho until Jan. Risky but a risk worth taking to get him in. Think we'll see the Striker and Goalie positions finally sorted in Jan.

Probably going to be too little too late!

 
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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 25 Sep 17 4.34pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Budget was allocated for Sakho until Jan. Risky but a risk worth taking to get him in. Think we'll see the Striker and Goalie positions finally sorted in Jan.

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Edited by the silurian (25 Sep 2017 4.34pm)

 
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leifandersonshair Flag Newport 25 Sep 17 5.22pm Send a Private Message to leifandersonshair Add leifandersonshair as a friend

Originally posted by EagleEssex

More to the point, if Hennessey was such a bad goalkeeper, how has he managed to both win back and then keep his place for so long.

If he was such a bad keeper, why has it been so difficult to find a replacement who is an improvement?

Answer - because there are not many out there who are better than Hennessey who are available, because he is a decent keeper, the group above him in terms of quality are rare and expensive and possibly unlikely to want to come to us.

Spot on. I don't rate Hennessey at all, think he's competent but that's it- but have to spend serious money to get a real upgrade

 
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Cornwall Eagle Flag 25 Sep 17 5.50pm Send a Private Message to Cornwall Eagle Add Cornwall Eagle as a friend

The way the team is playing I would go for competent any day of the week. Would David De Gea have made a difference probably not with what is going on around WH.
Some of our defending was sambolic under de. Boer and confidence is low. We also cannot score and WH cannot be blamed for that. He is under immense pressure because when we go 1-0 down we lose. That also applied to quite a few games last season.
With Benteke out for 6 weeks it is hard too see who will score surely that is the priority.

 
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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 25 Sep 17 7.09pm

Originally posted by Cornwall Eagle

The way the team is playing I would go for competent any day of the week. Would David De Gea have made a difference probably not with what is going on around WH.
Some of our defending was sambolic under de. Boer and confidence is low. We also cannot score and WH cannot be blamed for that. He is under immense pressure because when we go 1-0 down we lose. That also applied to quite a few games last season.
With Benteke out for 6 weeks it is hard too see who will score surely that is the priority.

Not sure I agree with you. A match winning goalkeeper would have seen us get a point from Southampton and given us a better chance of a point from games such as Swansea and maybe even Burnley. Points that we could well do with at the moment.

 

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Jimmy Flag Balham 25 Sep 17 7.13pm Send a Private Message to Jimmy Add Jimmy as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Not sure I agree with you. A match winning goalkeeper would have seen us get a point from Southampton and given us a better chance of a point from games such as Swansea and maybe even Burnley. Points that we could well do with at the moment.

No mate, that's just not true. He has not had the shockers you think

 

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braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 25 Sep 17 7.16pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

you cant blame wayne for burnley thats completely unfair.

why dont you try & suggest some of these match winning goalkeepers that are out there to sign?

 

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Tommyp151211 Flag 25 Sep 17 7.27pm Send a Private Message to Tommyp151211 Add Tommyp151211 as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

you cant blame wayne for burnley thats completely unfair.

why dont you try & suggest some of these match winning goalkeepers that are out there to sign?


If Liverpool can't find one then we definitely arnt going to be able to.

 
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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 25 Sep 17 8.10pm

Originally posted by Tommyp151211


If Liverpool can't find one then we definitely arnt going to be able to.

Burnley have one. We had one prior to Wayne. They're out there. We just need to scout one out. A bullish goal keeper who is a shot stopper, cross collector and isn't afraid to go through a player to gather the ball. Can't say they don't make them anymore, because they do.

 

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