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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 25 Jan 16 5.53pm | |
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Regarding trident...
and that's in a poll done for a lefty paper.
Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (25 Jan 2016 5.46pm)
Who said that? Jeremy Corbyn? CND? The Archbishop of Canterbury? No. It was three of the most respected and experienced military experts in the country – former Head of the Armed Forces Field Marshall Lord Bramall and former Generals Lord Ramsbotham and Sir Hugh Beach. They added: “Our independent deterrent has become virtually irrelevant except in the context of domestic politics.” They wanted to see the "huge" £20billion expense of renewing Trident spent on more conventional weapons and funding for our armed forces. These former army chiefs said they wanted to start a debate on Trident ... ...And they rejected claims that not renewing Trident would see us lose our place on the UN Security Council. Just like Jeremy. The armed chiefs went further. Lord Ramsbotham said: “I don’t think it is independent. First of all, we don’t own the missiles. "And secondly, I think it’s absolutely unthinkable that we should consider or even threaten using it without having clearance of the US.” So we’d been spending at least £20billion – and possibly as much as £100billion – on a weapons system that’s “completely useless”, that we can’t use independently and that would be better spent on our existing armed forces.
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Stuk Top half 25 Jan 16 8.58pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
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Quote nickgusset at 25 Jan 2016 5.25pm
Regarding trident...
and that's in a poll done for a lefty paper.
20% in favour of scrapping trident completely. 29% in favour of keeping it without nukes. 51% in favour of keeping it with nukes. Stop wilfully lying on these boards. It's annoying. At best it's stupidity.
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-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 25 Jan 16 9.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
20% in favour of scrapping trident completely. 29% in favour of keeping it without nukes. 51% in favour of keeping it with nukes. Stop wilfully lying on these boards. It's annoying. At best it's stupidity. Most people polled are generally ill informed/stupid but feel free to carry their torch. We don't need nuclear weapons. Period.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 25 Jan 16 9.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
20% in favour of scrapping trident completely. 29% in favour of keeping it without nukes. 51% in favour of keeping it with nukes. Stop wilfully lying on these boards. It's annoying. At best it's stupidity. Sorry my mistake. Still 49% don't want trident in the way it's been proposed. The majority that do want it is not significantly higher.
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We are goin up! Coulsdon 25 Jan 16 10.02pm | |
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When will Labour realise that no-one really gives a f*ck about Trident. If they want to be credible they should start talking about the economy, welfare and immigration as those are the three issues at the top of the electorate's minds. They won't though, because their policy on the economy is the little red book, their welfare policy is to uncap it and their leader believes in open borders. What a farce. At least you could have a begrudging respect for Labour when they were a bit credible under Blair, now they're just a laughing stock.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 25 Jan 16 11.55pm | |
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Originally posted by We are goin up!
When will Labour realise that no-one really gives a f*ck about Trident. If they want to be credible they should start talking about the economy, welfare and immigration as those are the three issues at the top of the electorate's minds. They won't though, because their policy on the economy is the little red book, their welfare policy is to uncap it and their leader believes in open borders. What a farce. At least you could have a begrudging respect for Labour when they were a bit credible under Blair, now they're just a laughing stock. It's the media that keep bringing up trident. Labour have plenty to say on the other subjects.
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We are goin up! Coulsdon 26 Jan 16 9.00am | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
It's the media that keep bringing up trident. Labour have plenty to say on the other subjects.
Labour seem to think you can convince people of your strategy without PR, which is obviously absolute tosh. There is nothing wrong with having a clear, coherent message. Even Owen Jones agrees: [Link] Edited by We are goin up! (26 Jan 2016 9.13am)
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Hoof Hearted 26 Jan 16 10.31am | |
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I got this email today........... As a rule, I don't usually circulate these "Please add your name to show support” appeals that appear in emails, BUT this one is very important. It has been circulating for only a few months and has been sent to several million people. Please keep it going! To show your support for Jeremy Corbyn, just go to the end of the list and add your name. 1. Mrs. Corbyn. 2.
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bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 26 Jan 16 2.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
I got this email today........... As a rule, I don't usually circulate these "Please add your name to show support” appeals that appear in emails, BUT this one is very important. It has been circulating for only a few months and has been sent to several million people. Please keep it going! To show your support for Jeremy Corbyn, just go to the end of the list and add your name. 1. Mrs. Corbyn. 2. Nick Gusset. 3.
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elgrande bedford 26 Jan 16 2.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
I got this email today........... As a rule, I don't usually circulate these "Please add your name to show support” appeals that appear in emails, BUT this one is very important. It has been circulating for only a few months and has been sent to several million people. Please keep it going! To show your support for Jeremy Corbyn, just go to the end of the list and add your name. 1. Mrs. Corbyn. 2.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 26 Jan 16 3.56pm | |
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Originally posted by We are goin up!
Labour seem to think you can convince people of your strategy without PR, which is obviously absolute tosh. There is nothing wrong with having a clear, coherent message. Even Owen Jones agrees: [Link] Edited by We are goin up! (26 Jan 2016 9.13am) Oh please Mr Marr, Don't ask questions about this or this, if you could kindly ask about... You'd get something like this happen.
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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 26 Jan 16 4.07pm | |
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I can see why certain people do not want to go on the The Andrew Marr show as he is totally biased as we all know when watching it....
Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky. |
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