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 Mapletree  Croydon 18 Feb 19 6.23pm |
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Those nails don't paint themselves you know
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| .TUX. 18 Feb 19 6.36pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Very boring how all of these collapsing companies place significant blame on Brexit really. It seems like every week there is another big business going terminal. They are all using the excuse that Brexit has been a part of tipping them over the edge. Simply a convenient excuse, following the mass of other companies that are in trouble. I mean, surely it couldn't have affected every one of these companies. Agreed.
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cryrst  The garden of England 18 Feb 19 6.51pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Agreed. Maple also sees that brexit has had an affect no matter how small.
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| .TUX. 18 Feb 19 6.53pm |
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Originally posted by pefwin
if it is not Brexit related are we the only country suffering from a global downturn? You're better than that.
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| .TUX. 18 Feb 19 9.57pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Some actual facts. Good to know Yeah, because everyone knowing about the 'J-curve' really helps with why they are poorer than those they follow?
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cpfc_chap  koh samui 18 Feb 19 10.03pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Would you like to tell us, as brexit is only 5 weeks away, which international companies are queueing up to invest in the UK to profit from the post-brexit boom? Go on..... This good enough!! Record high foreign investments!!
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| cryrst The garden of England 18 Feb 19 10.10pm |
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Has this rise happened year on year though?
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Pussay Patrol  19 Feb 19 5.06am |
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So investors will buy up stocks while they are weak or they have advantage on currency. It's not a good sign
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| Midlands Eagle 19 Feb 19 6.18am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Yet a few years ago when sterling was strong and UK companies were buying up foreign concerns it was supposedly a good sign. How does that work then? Edited by Midlands Eagle (19 Feb 2019 10.51am)
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| davenotamonkey 19 Feb 19 10.17am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
As you know Japan has a new trade deal with the EU so relocating will give direct free access to the single market. You are becoming very foolish. I'm glad you agree that the EU have shafted us with the Japan FTA then. If they were still having to pay 10% tariffs on importing cars from Japan, they would consider making them in-situ (assuming the bottom wasn't already falling out of the car market). What possible incentive do Japanese companies have for investing in manufacturing in the EU (beyond the huge tax breaks they get for EV work in Poland - is that not essentially (super)state-aid?), when they can spin up their currently low-capacity factories at home, employ Japanese workers and then export to this market tariff-free? They will now gain an additional 10% margin AND have the benefit of stimulating the Japanese economy. Or are you expecting all Japaneses cars to be 10% cheaper? If so, I have a bridge to sell you That said, I'm sure Turkey is also really pissed it's leaving the EU (or indeed the Custom Union), given that they are also shutting down their plant there. Bloody Brexit, eh? On that point, I would actually be pretty f***ing annoyed if I were Turkey. It is a member of the EU customs union (as many would have us be, post-Brexit) yet has absolutely no say in trade deals that the EU negotiates (as many would have us, post-Brexit). It now has to accept imports tariff-free from Japan, but at the same time it's now lost "1000-5000" (src: LinkedIn) jobs. "Hurrr....!! Hurr!!!! If this was so bad, our Nasty Tory government should have vetoed it! Stupid Tories, we have a say in the EU, we didn't make our voice heard... hurr!" The EU-Japan FTA was classed as an "EU-only" agreement, rather than a "mixed agreement". Thanks to the political ECJ court (the one that Remainiacs would have us be ruled under), this agreement did not require ratification by individual members states. How convenient. Just another example of the inexorable dilution of veto powers and removal of member state autonomy the EU has been pursuing for years. Still Brexit, ThankEU.
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Attachment: | steeleye20 Croydon 19 Feb 19 11.12am |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
I'm glad you agree that the EU have shafted us with the Japan FTA then. If they were still having to pay 10% tariffs on importing cars from Japan, they would consider making them in-situ (assuming the bottom wasn't already falling out of the car market). What possible incentive do Japanese companies have for investing in manufacturing in the EU (beyond the huge tax breaks they get for EV work in Poland - is that not essentially (super)state-aid?), when they can spin up their currently low-capacity factories at home, employ Japanese workers and then export to this market tariff-free? They will now gain an additional 10% margin AND have the benefit of stimulating the Japanese economy. Or are you expecting all Japaneses cars to be 10% cheaper? If so, I have a bridge to sell you That said, I'm sure Turkey is also really pissed it's leaving the EU (or indeed the Custom Union), given that they are also shutting down their plant there. Bloody Brexit, eh? On that point, I would actually be pretty f***ing annoyed if I were Turkey. It is a member of the EU customs union (as many would have us be, post-Brexit) yet has absolutely no say in trade deals that the EU negotiates (as many would have us, post-Brexit). It now has to accept imports tariff-free from Japan, but at the same time it's now lost "1000-5000" (src: LinkedIn) jobs. "Hurrr....!! Hurr!!!! If this was so bad, our Nasty Tory government should have vetoed it! Stupid Tories, we have a say in the EU, we didn't make our voice heard... hurr!" The EU-Japan FTA was classed as an "EU-only" agreement, rather than a "mixed agreement". Thanks to the political ECJ court (the one that Remainiacs would have us be ruled under), this agreement did not require ratification by individual members states. How convenient. Just another example of the inexorable dilution of veto powers and removal of member state autonomy the EU has been pursuing for years. Still Brexit, ThankEU. The only people 'shafting' the UK are the UK themselves. Anybody can see that, notably those losing their occupations.
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| davenotamonkey 19 Feb 19 11.43am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The only people 'shafting' the UK are the UK themselves. Anybody can see that, notably those losing their occupations. Great comeback. Well done engaging with the points I made.
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