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Badger11 Beckenham 19 Nov 23 9.21am
Originally posted by Spiderman As I have stated many times, this is what the HO are up against when trying to remove people. Hope those passengers feel pleased with themselves. Don’t be on him coming across the Channel in the not too distant future [Link] It's disgusting we should send the bill to the idiots on that plane. However this is a mess of the governments on making. Other countries seem to have a fair appeal process that doesn't take forever. This government has been around long enough now to close all the more absurd loopholes and design a system that is fair and not open to abuse. One more point
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Beckenham 19 Nov 23 9.21am

Originally posted by Spiderman

As I have stated many times, this is what the HO are up against when trying to remove people.
Hope those passengers feel pleased with themselves. Don’t be on him coming across the Channel in the not too distant future

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It's disgusting we should send the bill to the idiots on that plane.

However this is a mess of the governments on making. Other countries seem to have a fair appeal process that doesn't take forever. This government has been around long enough now to close all the more absurd loopholes and design a system that is fair and not open to abuse.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Nov 23 11.16am
Originally posted by Spiderman As I have stated many times, this is what the HO are up against when trying to remove people. Hope those passengers feel pleased with themselves. Don’t be on him coming across the Channel in the not too distant future [Link] You have more knowledge than others here. What’s the solution to this? There has to be some kind of right of appeal but not one that is capable of such exploitation. If my understanding is correct it’s the way the regulations are being interpreted rather than the regulations themselves that is the problem. So revised guidance and withdrawal of legal aid after a decision? For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 19 Nov 23 11.16am

Originally posted by Spiderman

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You have more knowledge than others here. What’s the solution to this? There has to be some kind of right of appeal but not one that is capable of such exploitation.

If my understanding is correct it’s the way the regulations are being interpreted rather than the regulations themselves that is the problem. So revised guidance and withdrawal of legal aid after a decision?

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 19 Nov 23 11.27am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle You have more knowledge than others here. What’s the solution to this? There has to be some kind of right of appeal but not one that is capable of such exploitation. If my understanding is correct it’s the way the regulations are being interpreted rather than the regulations themselves that is the problem. So revised guidance and withdrawal of legal aid after a decision? Part of the problem may be that the government had the Human Right Act inshrined into British law; there is therefore little lateral movement away from its wording. Most other EU countries have the act sitting alongside their own laws and is therefore used more for guidance rather than a hard and fast set of rules. hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You have more knowledge than others here. What’s the solution to this? There has to be some kind of right of appeal but not one that is capable of such exploitation.

Part of the problem may be that the government had the Human Right Act inshrined into British law; there is therefore little lateral movement away from its wording. Most other EU countries have the act sitting alongside their own laws and is therefore used more for guidance rather than a hard and fast set of rules.

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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becky over the moon 19 Nov 23 2.43pm
Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines Part of the problem may be that the government had the Human Right Act inshrined into British law; there is therefore little lateral movement away from its wording. Most other EU countries have the act sitting alongside their own laws and is therefore used more for guidance rather than a hard and fast set of rules. Well, how else was Cherie going to make her millions? A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 19 Nov 23 2.43pm

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Well, how else was Cherie going to make her millions?

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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Badger11 Beckenham 19 Nov 23 2.55pm
Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines Part of the problem may be that the government had the Human Right Act inshrined into British law; there is therefore little lateral movement away from its wording. Most other EU countries have the act sitting alongside their own laws and is therefore used more for guidance rather than a hard and fast set of rules. Whilst Labour was happy to bring the Human rights act into law the one right they did not enshrine was freedom of speech. Perhaps because they and the Tories have been intend on taking that away from the rest of us. Edited by Badger11 (19 Nov 2023 2.56pm) One more point
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Beckenham 19 Nov 23 2.55pm

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

Whilst Labour was happy to bring the Human rights act into law the one right they did not enshrine was freedom of speech. Perhaps because they and the Tories have been intend on taking that away from the rest of us.

Edited by Badger11 (19 Nov 2023 2.56pm)

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Spiderman Horsham 19 Nov 23 6.09pm
Originally posted by becky Well, how else was Cherie going to make her millions? Couldn’t possibly comment
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Horsham 19 Nov 23 6.09pm

Originally posted by becky

Well, how else was Cherie going to make her millions?

Couldn’t possibly comment

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Spiderman Horsham 19 Nov 23 6.12pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle You have more knowledge than others here. What’s the solution to this? There has to be some kind of right of appeal but not one that is capable of such exploitation. If my understanding is correct it’s the way the regulations are being interpreted rather than the regulations themselves that is the problem. So revised guidance and withdrawal of legal aid after a decision? One appeal and that’s it.Whatever people think HO do not take decisions to refuse lightly. Detention pending removal after that appeal.Certainly removal legal aid unfortunately the HRA supersedes any sensible solution
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Horsham 19 Nov 23 6.12pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You have more knowledge than others here. What’s the solution to this? There has to be some kind of right of appeal but not one that is capable of such exploitation.

One appeal and that’s it.Whatever people think HO do not take decisions to refuse lightly. Detention pending removal after that appeal.Certainly removal legal aid unfortunately the HRA supersedes any sensible solution

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Spiderman Horsham 19 Nov 23 6.28pm
Originally posted by Badger11 It's disgusting we should send the bill to the idiots on that plane. However this is a mess of the governments on making. Other countries seem to have a fair appeal process that doesn't take forever. This government has been around long enough now to close all the more absurd loopholes and design a system that is fair and not open to abuse. I believe most of the idiots were Italian and probably not resident here. His offence was not known by them, it was a case of big bad HO treating poor immigrant appallingly
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Horsham 19 Nov 23 6.28pm

Originally posted by Badger11

It's disgusting we should send the bill to the idiots on that plane.

I believe most of the idiots were Italian and probably not resident here. His offence was not known by them, it was a case of big bad HO treating poor immigrant appallingly

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Spiderman Horsham 20 Nov 23 2.19pm
Originally posted by Spiderman I believe most of the idiots were Italian and probably not resident here. His offence was not known by them, it was a case of big bad HO treating poor immigrant appallingly Also had a little help from this source [Link]
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Horsham 20 Nov 23 2.19pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

I believe most of the idiots were Italian and probably not resident here. His offence was not known by them, it was a case of big bad HO treating poor immigrant appallingly

Also had a little help from this source

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Badger11 Beckenham 21 Nov 23 2.37pm
Racist Tory government wanting to pull out of international bodies... [Link] Oops maybe not the UK. One more point
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Beckenham 21 Nov 23 2.37pm

Racist Tory government wanting to pull out of international bodies...

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Oops maybe not the UK.

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Spiderman Horsham 17 Dec 23 1.27pm
You couldn’t make this up ha ha ha [Link]
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Horsham 17 Dec 23 1.27pm

You couldn’t make this up ha ha ha

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Hrolf The Ganger 17 Dec 23 3.50pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Racist Tory government wanting to pull out of international bodies... [Link] Oops maybe not the UK. All world government will have to change their tune on migrants. It is not a question of if, but how soon. There is no alternative. These mealy mouthed lefties still trying to make political gain out of this problem are harming nation states. Britiain has already been irreparably damaged by legal mass immigration and hidden illegal immigration, the size of which one can only guess at. The whole question of immigration should be number one on the agenda at the next election. The economy will fluctuate no matter what, but this is something that has to be dealt with now.
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17 Dec 23 3.50pm

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Originally posted by Badger11

Racist Tory government wanting to pull out of international bodies...

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Oops maybe not the UK.

All world government will have to change their tune on migrants.
It is not a question of if, but how soon. There is no alternative.

These mealy mouthed lefties still trying to make political gain out of this problem are harming nation states. Britiain has already been irreparably damaged by legal mass immigration and hidden illegal immigration, the size of which one can only guess at.
The whole question of immigration should be number one on the agenda at the next election. The economy will fluctuate no matter what, but this is something that has to be dealt with now.

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