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Teddy Eagle Flag 11 Aug 24 8.54pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly


just Imagine

It's Tommy Robinsons real name

This has never been mentioned before. Why not call him Tommy Robinson then.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Aug 24 9.02pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

So is acceptable to accuse working class beer drinking football fans of being facists?

The left's activists and Starmer's administration put a lot of misinformation into the public space backed by zero evidence.

Hope Not Hate's leader put out the false claim that a Muslim woman had had acid thrown over her.....An Islamic guy on the streets is on video angrily referring to this fake event.....Let it be noted that no action has been taken against Hope Not Hate for this (part funded by the state). Even though people have already been jailed for other false claims deemed to have incited.

It's also noted that the claim that 100 protests around sensitive spots for last Wednesday was also a hoax.....And it looks like a very deliberately designed one when we see what actually happened....there were an awful lot of 'socialist worker' placards.

Starmer quickly made claims that these riots had been organised by the 'far right'.....With no actual evidence at all.....direct misinformation coming from the PM himself.

The EDL were mentioned and put out there by the left even though that organisation hasn't existed for around ten years. They have changed their tune now but have taken no accountability for these mass circulated false claims.

The amount of lying done over this event has been shocking and yet all we are hearing about in the mainstream media is state and leftist propaganda.


Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Aug 2024 9.20pm)

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 11 Aug 24 9.11pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Were they all football fans? Or was the guy with the banner one? I don’t know any better than I know their, or the marcher’s, politics.

I only know what was on the short video. Two groups. One banging drums, the other waving fists and shouting. Who started the confrontation is unknown as is everything that was said.

Typically thoughtless of them not to take their drums to the pub so they could respond in kind.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Aug 24 10.07pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

(Reproduced with edits)

The case of Ricky Jones, a Labour councilor who allegedly called for the murder of right-wing protesters, has been remanded in custody after appearing in court.

A video surfaced of him appearing to call them "disgusting Nazi fascists," saying, "We need to cut their throats and get rid of them."

His lawyer called for leniency, claiming Jones was not driven by an "ideological narrative."

While he was held, pending a further hearing in September, his case appears to be moving more slowly than others.

For example:

Tyler Kay was jailed for 38 months after posting: "Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f****** hotels full of the b****** for all I care… If that makes me racist, so be it."

Jordan Parlour was jailed for 20 months for posting: "Every man and their dog should be smashing f**k out Britannia Hotel," referring to a hotel that was home to 210 refugees and asylum seekers.

Although the UK's Prime Minister Keir Starmer vowed swift justice for protesters, Ricky's case has raised questions about whether that only applies to the anti-immigration demonstrators.

Has his case been delayed to take the heat out of comparisons so he can be given a much smaller sentence?

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Aug 2024 10.10pm)

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 11 Aug 24 10.41pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Far right ‘unchristian’, says Archbishop of Canterbury as he condemns riots.

Justin Welby says violent disorder was racist and calls adoption of Christian imagery an ‘outrage’.

Welby is an activist not a religous figure.Interesting that someone who does not believe in Christianity is happy to quote Welby when it suits the narrative.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 11 Aug 24 10.50pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

So according to the KIA narcissist passive participation is showing support and agreement at a protest. QED all those attending pro Palestine protests and holding Socialist Worker signs were supporting the jew hating chants of from the river to the sea, the women with hang glider patches.

"Rejoice as Palestinian resistance humiliates racist Israel", this was in Socialist Worker October 9th, two days after the massacre. rapes and kidnappings.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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YT Flag Oxford 11 Aug 24 10.58pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Welby is an activist not a religous figure.Interesting that someone who does not believe in Christianity is happy to quote Welby when it suits the narrative.

Welby is also a pathetic wet. I know Christians, including in my own family, who can't stand him and think he's a t***. FFS he couldn't even learn the few words he had to say at King Charles III's coronation and had to have it written down on a card. Even then he f***ed it up.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 11 Aug 24 10.58pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of course I read it. I think you need to also read what you wrote. What you actually claimed was:-

“I think it’s something like 40 odd percent agree with the grievances of protesters and 30% think they should be happening.”

Which is nothing remotely like what the survey found. Their headline in bold says:-

Few Britons support the disorder, with the vast majority saying it is unjustified and that the views of the rioters are not representative of the wider population”

Then goes on to say the quote you reference, which does NOT mean what you suggest it does, and then:-

Just one in eight Britons say the riots were justified”

Pretty obviously not that 30% agree they should be happening.

It also says:-

“Although six in ten Britons have sympathies with the peaceful protests, just 8% sympathise with rioters”

We have not witnessed peaceful protests! We have witnessed riots!

You can try wriggling out of what it says all you like. It says on the page, ‘Only one in three Britons support the recent protests, with the riots receiving overwhelming opposition’. There, a third of people support the protests but not rioting. I know they try to play it down with ‘only’, but a third is a third, and very substantial.

The other survey has 52% agreeing that immigration should be reduced/slowed down. It’s people like you who think the majority doesn’t matter.

If there was a general election tomorrow, Starmer would lose. That’s quite a change to the election result. His approval rating has dropped from 19% to 3%, and that’s because he’s suggested that everyone with an opinion opposite to his own is right wing, whilst never mentioning he understands people’s concerns or frustrations. But no, nothing like that. Everyone’s a racist and has to accept immigration continuing to increase.

We’ll see what the ‘scatter’ policy produces in reaction and opinion. Probably the same as when lefties at protests are asked if they could take an immigrant into their home. Of course none of them can or will. Funny that. Well it would be funny if it wasn’t so serious considering crime and risk to safety of local women and children. Labour don’t care about Tory areas so this sh1t could get interesting there as well as more labour areas.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 12 Aug 24 6.51am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Were they all football fans? Or was the guy with the banner one? I don’t know any better than I know their, or the marcher’s, politics.

I only know what was on the short video. Two groups. One banging drums, the other waving fists and shouting. Who started the confrontation is unknown as is everything that was said.

I think your last paragraph sums your views up perfectly. Here is my take, why did those supposedly on a March, stop outside that pub? Did you notice which way the police were facing? The police should have told them to continue on with their march.k
IMO the marchers were antagonising the football fans to prompt a reaction, unfortunately for them the only reaction they got was singing about Port Vale. Listen to the chap interviewed at the end, unless of course, his version of events cannot be correct as he is a football fan

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 12 Aug 24 6.53am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

(Reproduced with edits)

The case of Ricky Jones, a Labour councilor who allegedly called for the murder of right-wing protesters, has been remanded in custody after appearing in court.

A video surfaced of him appearing to call them "disgusting Nazi fascists," saying, "We need to cut their throats and get rid of them."

His lawyer called for leniency, claiming Jones was not driven by an "ideological narrative."

While he was held, pending a further hearing in September, his case appears to be moving more slowly than others.

For example:

Tyler Kay was jailed for 38 months after posting: "Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f****** hotels full of the b****** for all I care… If that makes me racist, so be it."

Jordan Parlour was jailed for 20 months for posting: "Every man and their dog should be smashing f**k out Britannia Hotel," referring to a hotel that was home to 210 refugees and asylum seekers.

Although the UK's Prime Minister Keir Starmer vowed swift justice for protesters, Ricky's case has raised questions about whether that only applies to the anti-immigration demonstrators.

Has his case been delayed to take the heat out of comparisons so he can be given a much smaller sentence?

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Aug 2024 10.10pm)

Reply to your last paragraph is YES

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 12 Aug 24 7.21am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

"Doctor warned Nottingham attacker could kill"
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"A doctor warned three years before the Nottingham attacks that Valdo Calocane's mental illness was so severe he could "end up killing someone", the BBC can reveal.

This was one of a series of missed opportunities over three years that could have prevented the killings, Calocane's mother and brother told BBC Panorama in their first interview."

I just wonder how you can intervene into someone's life to prevent something they might only be thinking about. I think we've all have moments where our anger is intense, and we think of something not very nice.
OK, Calocane had clearly identified mental issues, and had professionally been assessed as a risk.
On one hand it smacks of thought-crime. Where it's OK to arrest someone for being an onlooker at the recent disturbances, because they might do something'.
We've all seen dangerous road junctions and thought , 'there's accident waiting to happen', and then it does. The upshot being, (local) Government won't spend money until a risk has been 'proven', by an accident/incident, whatever.

Can you cage someone indefinitely, because they are a 'wrong 'un' ? and how do you justify that ?


Edited by Forest Hillbilly (12 Aug 2024 7.22am)

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 12 Aug 24 7.49am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

"Doctor warned Nottingham attacker could kill"
[Link]
"A doctor warned three years before the Nottingham attacks that Valdo Calocane's mental illness was so severe he could "end up killing someone", the BBC can reveal.

This was one of a series of missed opportunities over three years that could have prevented the killings, Calocane's mother and brother told BBC Panorama in their first interview."

I just wonder how you can intervene into someone's life to prevent something they might only be thinking about. I think we've all have moments where our anger is intense, and we think of something not very nice.
OK, Calocane had clearly identified mental issues, and had professionally been assessed as a risk.
On one hand it smacks of thought-crime. Where it's OK to arrest someone for being an onlooker at the recent disturbances, because they might do something'.
We've all seen dangerous road junctions and thought , 'there's accident waiting to happen', and then it does. The upshot being, (local) Government won't spend money until a risk has been 'proven', by an accident/incident, whatever.

Can you cage someone indefinitely, because they are a 'wrong 'un' ? and how do you justify that ?


Edited by Forest Hillbilly (12 Aug 2024 7.22am)

Recently labour seem to be intervening with people watching. The thought police are real.

 

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