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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 07 Jul 22 5.24pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Matov


No. Although to be fair, the Conservative party are no longer socially conservative either. Hence all the legislation regarding things like Gay Marriage and this Trans BS has happened under their watch.

So I don't really understand how you can conclude that we're a socially conservative nation.

Left-leaning parties always win more votes, and you agree none of them are socially conservative (certainly not in the last few decades)

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 07 Jul 22 5.39pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Other examples of social engineering would be the decades of anti-immigration rhetoric pumped out by tabloids resulting in a generation of people utterly obsessed by the topic. Or the decades of anti-EU rhetoric pumped out via the same platforms, and more recent questionable (at best) use of social media data by the leave campaign, which have resulted in Brexit.

80% were against Windrush at the time because they were 'socially engineered' to believe they were an inferior race and somehow genetically more criminal.

People were opposed to gay marriage because they were socially engineered (predominantly by the church) to believe it was sinful and disgusting.

The idea that these were somehow the 'original' views untainted by social engineering is just silly.

Genetically more criminal. Look at stabbing statistics, look at people in prison, look at wanted posters.
If only at the high end guess 15% of the population is non white indigenous why are those figures so high?
That not taking into account grooming from another non white population.
I suppose you would say racism !
I would say your wrong with your statement!

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 07 Jul 22 5.47pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Genetically more criminal. Look at stabbing statistics, look at people in prison, look at wanted posters.
If only at the high end guess 15% of the population is non white indigenous why are those figures so high?
That not taking into account grooming from another non white population.
I suppose you would say racism !
I would say your wrong with your statement!

A first hand example of said social engineering! Thanks, you made my point for me.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 07 Jul 22 5.56pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Other examples of social engineering would be the decades of anti-immigration rhetoric pumped out by tabloids resulting in a generation of people utterly obsessed by the topic. Or the decades of anti-EU rhetoric pumped out via the same platforms, and more recent questionable (at best) use of social media data by the leave campaign, which have resulted in Brexit.

80% were against Windrush at the time because they were 'socially engineered' to believe they were an inferior race and somehow genetically more criminal.

People were opposed to gay marriage because they were socially engineered (predominantly by the church) to believe it was sinful and disgusting.

The idea that these were somehow the 'original' views untainted by social engineering is just silly.

Were the slavers socially engineered by the media as well, or due to other reasons - advantageous exploitation and cruelty?

Fact is majority of people like to be around people the same as them. And that can be class based or behavioural as well as racial. A well to do family would rather live next door to a Ghanaian doctor’s family than some scumbags who behave badly and take liberties.

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 07 Jul 22 6.08pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Were the slavers socially engineered by the media as well, or due to other reasons - advantageous exploitation and cruelty?

Fact is majority of people like to be around people the same as them. And that can be class based or behavioural as well as racial. A well to do family would rather live next door to a Ghanaian doctor’s family than some scumbags who behave badly and take liberties.

Obviously, yes.

How on earth else do you think you convince people to commit such atrocities?

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 07 Jul 22 6.16pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Other examples of social engineering would be the decades of anti-immigration rhetoric pumped out by tabloids resulting in a generation of people utterly obsessed by the topic. Or the decades of anti-EU rhetoric pumped out via the same platforms, and more recent questionable (at best) use of social media data by the leave campaign, which have resulted in Brexit.

80% were against Windrush at the time because they were 'socially engineered' to believe they were an inferior race and somehow genetically more criminal.

People were opposed to gay marriage because they were socially engineered (predominantly by the church) to believe it was sinful and disgusting.

The idea that these were somehow the 'original' views untainted by social engineering is just silly.

What you call 'social engineering' in terms of tribalism is in fact the natural state of human beings....You will find it within tribes that have never met the modern world.

One of the expressions of tribalism is you supporting a football team.....which is the same thing in an another form.

It's why borders exist....from your house to a nation's borders.

Being against immigration is an easily describable aspect of human nature. Even after decades of one way elite driven media indoctrination that natural tendency is still strong.

You have just been indoctrinated against certain natural aspects of tribalism while others were never challenged. That was probably your family culture and your genes will probably account for how easy that was to do.

The fact that you think these things exist as a kind of superior/inferior domain is just something your political ideology teaches you. Some people may think like that but for people like me it's not the point at all....nothing to do with it. There are highly intelligent people and retards within every race.

As for homosexuality, I think nature automatically has a bias.
You seem to think that a rejection of homosexuality started with the Church? Mmmmm...you need to read more history I think.

However, rather than go on about that I'll just say that there are quite understandable reasons why someone might think that homosexuality isn't good for societies that exist outside of a religion's thinking.....Otherwise the tendency against it within most cultures wouldn't exist.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jul 2022 6.26pm)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 07 Jul 22 6.22pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Obviously, yes.

How on earth else do you think you convince people to commit such atrocities?

So slavers in Africa thousands of years ago were socially engineered by the media?

You do realise that slavery was around pretty much from the year dot don't you?

Again, it's a natural consequence of tribalism within the more basic civilisational cultures of man......which is why it still exists in parts of the world today.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jul 2022 6.24pm)

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 07 Jul 22 6.39pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

What you call 'social engineering' in terms of tribalism is in fact the natural state of human beings....You will find it within tribes that have never met the modern world.

One of the expressions of tribalism is you supporting a football team.....which is the same thing in an another form.

It's why borders exist....from your house to a nation's borders.

Being against immigration is an easily describable aspect of human nature. Even after decades of one way elite driven media indoctrination that natural tendency is still strong.

You have just been indoctrinated against certain natural aspects of tribalism while others were never challenged. That was probably your family culture and your genes will probably account for how easy that was to do.

The fact that you think these things exist as a kind of superior/inferior domain is just something your political ideology teaches you. Some people may think like that but for people like me it's not the point at all....nothing to do with it. There are highly intelligent people and retards within every race.

As for homosexuality, I think nature automatically has a bias.
You seem to think that a rejection of homosexuality started with the Church? Mmmmm...you need to read more history I think.

However, rather than go on about that I'll just say that there are quite understandable reasons why someone might think that homosexuality isn't good for societies that exist outside of a religion's thinking.....Otherwise the tendency against it within most cultures wouldn't exist.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jul 2022 6.26pm)

Ah, so your position is the 'natural position' and anything else isn't. That's a slippery slope to frame any discussion.

To conflate the existence of tribalism (which is obviously true) with the suggestion that humans are naturally against immigration is quite funny.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 07 Jul 22 6.41pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

So slavers in Africa thousands of years ago were socially engineered by the media?

You do realise that slavery was around pretty much from the year dot don't you?

Again, it's a natural consequence of tribalism within the more basic civilisational cultures of man......which is why it still exists in parts of the world today.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jul 2022 6.24pm)

You don't believe propaganda existed thousands of years ago?

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 07 Jul 22 6.42pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Ah, so your position is the 'natural position' and anything else isn't. That's a slippery slope to frame any discussion.

To conflate the existence of tribalism (which is obviously true) with the suggestion that humans are naturally against immigration is quite funny.

Really?

I regard it as demonstrative logic.

But there you go.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 07 Jul 22 6.43pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

You don't believe propaganda existed thousands of years ago?

And why did that 'propaganda' exist?

And by the way, no not really....mass media didn't exist in the form that would convince large numbers of people of ideas that wouldn't exist within natural human communities.

The evidence is that borders as well as slavery was everywhere....in different cultures that had never met each other.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jul 2022 6.48pm)

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 07 Jul 22 6.53pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

And why did that 'propaganda' exist?

And by the way, no not really....mass media didn't exist in the form that would convince large numbers of people of ideas that wouldn't exist within natural human communities.

The evidence is that slavery was everywhere....in different cultures that had never met each other.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jul 2022 6.46pm)

The same reason any propaganda exists - to make people think and act a certain way.

Just to be clear, you are suggesting that people did not their opinions swayed by media until mass media existed as concept? Cmon…

 

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