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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Aug 23 4.27pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

They're not just assertions; they are facts.
To be honest I'm not interested in Dr. Campbell who may well be a complete crank but he isn't a trusted government advisor.

They are 100% assertions, because allegations are being made about motivations and assumptions made about terms of reference.

Any worst case scenario is very likely to be very wrong. Methodologies used during a rapidly evolving situation are likely to later be shown to be imperfect.

If you are the go to source to answer the “what’s the absolutely worst possible outcome“ question, then you are likely to be on the receiving end of later criticism.

The government acted, not Ferguson. He, along with others, advised. That was then. This is now.

Campbell is actively misleading and misrepresenting a huge number of people and causing them to doubt the work of science. This is now.

With all due respect you should be interested. He may not be advising government but he is advising a huge number of people not to trust government. With misinformation!

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Aug 23 4.31pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

I've never heard of Professor Tucker Kellogg. What proof is there that he's any more trustworthy?

Look him up. Then listen to him and decide that for yourself.

If this guy isn’t qualified to deal with this subject and not telling the truth from a position of real knowledge then we may as well all jump off a cliff.

He is trustworthy. I would stake my life on it.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Aug 23 4.36pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mattconrov

Campbell was completely on with the government narrative throughout the pandemic where he built up quite a following. Now he has changed his tune. Better late than never I suppose.

Plenty more experts out there that are not government linked.

If you go back to page 134 and in particular 135 you will see plenty of links.

I'm no fan of Campbell who did a lot of damage in getting people to be experimented on. But he does appear to genuinely feel sorry for what he did.


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He has changed his tune.

Because of people like you. He saw riches beyond his wildest dreams laid out before him. All he had to do was change direction and feed their biases.

He has been very clever. Lost his integrity but got rich. You not so clever.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 10 Aug 23 4.49pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

They are 100% assertions, because allegations are being made about motivations and assumptions made about terms of reference.

Any worst case scenario is very likely to be very wrong. Methodologies used during a rapidly evolving situation are likely to later be shown to be imperfect.

If you are the go to source to answer the “what’s the absolutely worst possible outcome“ question, then you are likely to be on the receiving end of later criticism.

The government acted, not Ferguson. He, along with others, advised. That was then. This is now.

Campbell is actively misleading and misrepresenting a huge number of people and causing them to doubt the work of science. This is now.

With all due respect you should be interested. He may not be advising government but he is advising a huge number of people not to trust government. With misinformation!

Since he's been wrong so many times his advice is questionable at best and seeing he broke lockdown rules he didn't believe it himself.
It wasn't the worst case scenario. The worst case scenario would have been everybody dying.
Trust the government? The one led by Boris Johnson at the time?

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Aug 23 4.54pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mattconrov

If he informs people then that's a good thing. Speaking out against the vaccines is a lot easier now than 2 years ago.

I do watch his videos so I am hardly anti Dr campbell. It's just he's no hero. I suppose that was my main point.

The government figures on covid deaths are completely unreliable.
The way figures were totalled and reported was scandalous.

I recall Eddie large's death being reported. Famous comedian Eddie large dies of covid 19 after being admitted to hospital with heart failure. These were the obvious red flags people were not seeing at the time. That would have gone on the covid death list.

Over 99 percent survival rate from covid 19. Average age of people dying around 82. This information was known pretty early on.

I can understand people falling for it then to some extent. But the people still believing that the ends justified the means. Absolutely incredible. Some of them think 98 percent of people are Morons. Lol

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The last link is a little strange to say the least. It shows to me, we are nowhere near to seeing the scale of lying and propaganda.


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This isn’t the first time you have made these silly assertions.

Very few people will only have Covid on their death certificate. Almost everyone will have died with Covid but because of an underlying cause. Something they were living with until the stress of Covid tipped them over the edge.

The fact that you reference the full blown nutcase David Icke referring to deaths in Cornwall which refers to a hospital where my wife works and did during the height of the crisis is instructive. Many more deaths than 4 occurred there on a weekly basis which were Covid related and would not have occurred without it.

As I explained to you before this was a methodology used to track trends and not absolutes. If were living with a heart condition, caught Covid and died, then it was the Covid that was responsible. You would still though see the heart condition on the death certificate.

You may think a 99% survival rate means something can be ignored. I think a 1% death rate cannot be.

 


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Mattconrov Flag 10 Aug 23 5.00pm Send a Private Message to Mattconrov Add Mattconrov as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

He has changed his tune.

Because of people like you. He saw riches beyond his wildest dreams laid out before him. All he had to do was change direction and feed their biases.

He has been very clever. Lost his integrity but got rich. You not so clever.


And there was me thinking it was a group of mega greedy pharma executives in legion with our politicans - many who will be going through the revolving door of business and government.

It was my fault all the time. Lol.

I think my two houses are enough for me thank you Wisbech.That's all the cleverness I need. Plus I kept my soul.

Let' hope due to people like you, I don't lose my two houses. (See WEF and the great reset for more information.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Aug 23 5.04pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Since he's been wrong so many times his advice is questionable at best and seeing he broke lockdown rules he didn't believe it himself.
It wasn't the worst case scenario. The worst case scenario would have been everybody dying.
Trust the government? The one led by Boris Johnson at the time?

It’s not up to you or me. We didn’t seek his advice. The government you elected did. One I accept as a result of our democracy. He made an error, but not an illegal one.

Worst case scenarios are always within defined parameters, however unlikely, so whilst a wipeout might be theoretically possible it is also implausible.

This concentration on someone whose involvement and influence is in the past is a diversion.

Campbell is influential now, and not in any kind of useful way.

 


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Mattconrov Flag 10 Aug 23 5.11pm Send a Private Message to Mattconrov Add Mattconrov as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This isn’t the first time you have made these silly assertions.

Very few people will only have Covid on their death certificate. Almost everyone will have died with Covid but because of an underlying cause. Something they were living with until the stress of Covid tipped them over the edge.

The fact that you reference the full blown nutcase David Icke referring to deaths in Cornwall which refers to a hospital where my wife works and did during the height of the crisis is instructive. Many more deaths than 4 occurred there on a weekly basis which were Covid related and would not have occurred without it.

As I explained to you before this was a methodology used to track trends and not absolutes. If were living with a heart condition, caught Covid and died, then it was the Covid that was responsible. You would still though see the heart condition on the death certificate.

You may think a 99% survival rate means something can be ignored. I think a 1% death rate cannot be.


Totally disingenuous. You know how those reports of covid deaths were reported on the news and by the government every day. They never explained about underlying conditions. That would have affected the fear factor and detracted from their lying.

You've got yourself in a right twist as normal. Let me untwist you.

As you quite rightly said there were underlying conditions on the certificate. Hence only 4 recorded deaths from covid as reported by the great David icke ( he hadn't requested the info by the way but was only reporting it) no need to divert the information.

The one percent of deaths is a lot. But that 1 percent (less actually) included the majority of people who would have sadly died anyway.

How did we get our covid death figures that were reported on our TV screens every night. A PCR test that if recorded positive enabled the authorities to count the death of a person as covid 19 if they died within 28 days - and as those people were either coming in or were in hospital already they would have had a test. That's a lot of tests. A lot of asymptomatic positive tests for covid, tested on cancer and heart attack patients.

Wow you still don't get it. Incredible.

So according to you it wasn't the terminal cancer, the heart attack or brain tumour. It was the flu that killed them. Maybe it was the final Straw, but they were dying anyway.

Check out the average age of death. Surely that shines some light for you. It probably won't though

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Teddy Eagle Flag 10 Aug 23 5.18pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It’s not up to you or me. We didn’t seek his advice. The government you elected did. One I accept as a result of our democracy. He made an error, but not an illegal one.

Worst case scenarios are always within defined parameters, however unlikely, so whilst a wipeout might be theoretically possible it is also implausible.

This concentration on someone whose involvement and influence is in the past is a diversion.

Campbell is influential now, and not in any kind of useful way.

It wasn't up to the country to close down for months either, particularly following the recommendation of someone with such a poor record.
If it's a diversion then ignore it. Maybe he's being economical with the truth which is acceptable for politicians but not for a YouTuber.

 

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Mattconrov Flag 10 Aug 23 5.45pm Send a Private Message to Mattconrov Add Mattconrov as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It wasn't up to the country to close down for months either, particularly following the recommendation of someone with such a poor record.
If it's a diversion then ignore it. Maybe he's being economical with the truth which is acceptable for politicians but not for a YouTuber.

No best outcome was given either. So we will just go with the worst one.

Wisbech thinks he's had a Stella career. Lol

 


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Mattconrov Flag 10 Aug 23 5.51pm Send a Private Message to Mattconrov Add Mattconrov as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

The official total is meaningless since anyone who died of literally anything was recorded as a Covid death.
The issue is that pretty much the whole world locked down in the expectation that a vaccine would be become available even though one had never been developed before.

Absolutely bang on truth that anyone who isn't brainwashed by BBC/itv news can see. If you explained it to a brainwashed person you might have a good chance of deprogramming them.


This is far too simple for Wisbech to understand. I'm not joking when I say this. Wisbech is very intelligent. But he's not seeing the simple truth in front of his eyes. That's why he's such a wind merchant..lol

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 10 Aug 23 5.55pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mattconrov

No best outcome was given either. So we will just go with the worst one.

Wisbech thinks he's had a Stella career. Lol

He was reassuringly expensive anyway.

 

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